'Gypsy Soul' compac 19

[K3v1n]

Well I did it, I'm now the proud owner of a Com-Pac 19.
Will be picking her up towards the end of the week. 



-Kevin

[Adam]

Congrats!!!!!!!

Great boats!!!

In a similar vein, Friday I'm on my way up to Indiantown Marina to bring my baby home!

(Hurricane permitting, of course)

Adam
http://www.svjourney.org

[Captain Smollett]

Congrats, Kevin!!   

Be looking forward to reading more as you get to know her.

[AdriftAtSea]

Congrats on the new to you boat.

[Pixie Dust]

Congrats on the purchase.  From 1 Com-Pac owner to another... ya gonna love her!!! 

[CapnK]

WTG, Kev! 

The family will love it. Probably already do! Now that you have acted upon your 3'ft -itis, you have a year or two of 'non-looking' at other boats ahead of you.

Adam - good luck and have fun to you, too!

[s/v Faith]

Congrats!

Grog...... all who purchase new boat need deserve grog.....  Drink up. 

  Enjoy!

[Captain Smollett]

Kevin,

I don't know if you've seen this Small Boat Journal article, but thought you might find it interesting.  I like it, too, since my boat is the OTHER one discussed! 

[K3v1n]

Haven't been to the site in a while so I thought I'd bump my old thread. We had a great month of September sailing around in our CP19, even did one overnighter. We had our share of mishaps as well grand old times, I guess that is the nature of sailing.

Starting to get the feeling I like performance over just cruising about, not quite sure where that will lead me but I do so enjoy when the wind is blowing and the boat is heeling. I posted up a few pictures of the family and I out and about.

With my Com-Pac 16 still for sale on the front lawn and a Com-Pac 19 parked in the driveway, I've found myself already pondering my next vessel...a Tanzer 22.

Just call me crazy! 

Have a great holiday season everyone.

-Kevin

[Captain Smollett]

With my Com-Pac 16 still for sale on the front lawn and a Com-Pac 19 parked in the driveway, I've found myself already pondering my next vessel...a Tanzer 22.

Uh-oh. Sounds like sudden onset 3-ft itis.   

[Frank]

Glad to see there are many 'boat addicts' out there. I've sailed Tanzer 22's....HUGE cockpit,stable,fast,responsive.Bonus is if you are tall and sitting on the head..you can open the hatch,stick your head out and look around (honest) They truely do sail really well. Now...about that 25??

[AdriftAtSea]

The problem is that the Tanzer has a huge cockpit, which becomes a liability on longer passages, especially if you're away from easily accessible safe harbors... Boats with huge cockpits are poor long-distance cruisers IMHO, and are best used for daysailing or shorter over night trips.

[Frank]

  Kevin ... You mentioned performance....you would be hard pressed to get a faster,more responsive,more forgiving,stable boat with room to take the kids and friends out AND at a better price ..than a T22. Might not be an 'ocean crosser' but one heck of a good fun family boat

[Captain Smollett]

The problem is that the Tanzer has a huge cockpit, which becomes a liability on longer passages, especially if you're away from easily accessible safe harbors... Boats with huge cockpits are poor long-distance cruisers IMHO, and are best used for daysailing or shorter over night trips.

Just a thought: Long distance does not have to equal "offshore."  I could leave right now in my 18 footer and sail 1000 miles North or South and never be out of site of land.  And I'd be perfectly comfortable doing that, and I could do it without touching land for a week or two if I wanted.

EVERYTHING on any boat is a trade-off, and moresor on smaller boats.  Perhaps that large cockpit buys something more positive somewhere else in the design.  I don't dispute that ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, a large cockpit is often less desirable than a small one, but my point is that NOTHING ELSE is equal.  We seem to spend a lot of time debated apples and oranges comparisons in boat designs.

The best boat for making a passage is the one that is making a passage.

[Zen]

I think orange designed boats would float better, but the apple will may take say running into a countainer, better. However with age, perhaps the apple would do better because of the water tight chambers, where the orange is more compartmentalized. Therefore with age would start beaking down each section. On the other hand the boyancy factor being greater in the orange design would still make it a worthwhile purchased for a long term sea voyage, beside the Vit.C content, in an emergency. However... then your capsizing ratio is shot all to heck!
I will not even get into the color safty factors over orange vs red , or green
 

[AdriftAtSea]

Captain Smollett-

One thing I'd mention is that even being in sight of shore doesn't necessarily mean much.  The New Jersey coastline is fairly inhospitable to boats, and you can stay within sight of the coastline, but if a storm pops up, you'd often be better off heading out rather than trying to get into one of the few harbors available along it.

One woman I know sails the Great Lakes, and she points out that being on a lake doesn't really mean much when you're talking Lake Michigan or Superior, the two that she frequents the most.

However, I fully agree that the best boat for making a passage is the one that is making it... a boat does you no good if it doesn't get used...

I'd also agree that smaller boats generally have to make more compromises than larger boats, mainly due to the more limited space.

Zen-

I like the bannana boats best.

[CapnK]

Kevin -

We aren't headed for an intervention here in another couple years, are we???

[K3v1n]

I wouldn't be using the Tanzer for long ocean passages by any means. It would still be a bay sailer but it would be neat to take a peek outside when the conditions are just right. The ocean is no the problem where I'm located, it is the inlet that is the obstacle.

http://cirp.wes.army.mil/cirp/gallery/phpslideshow.php?directory=barnegat

http://www.njscuba.net/sites/site_barnegat_inlet.html

[Frank]

Zen...what about a pineapple boat?? Thicker hull,bigger,holds more food...way better than an apple or an orange boat. I like the 'best boat is the one you're on' principle.Getting out there is more important than anything and great passages have been made on inferior boats. Heck...the famous 'SPRAY' was a terrible offshore design (honest)....Slocum didn't think so. And big cockpits...seems to me " Zoltan" sailed his pearson commander 3/4 way around the world including the red sea.Think he paid $1000 for it ..and us Ariel guys know..a Commander has a huge cockpit. Moral of the story..get a boat you like..use it..HAVE FUN !!!  Now ..about that pinapple design??

[K3v1n]

I joined up at the Tanzer Group, finding a lot of great info on the T22 and T26. I posted asking a few questions and I've even had a few guys email me to buy their boats. I think I'm headed down that slippery slope. 

-Kevin