I was wondering if anybody used gas stoves, and I mean stoves that operate on liquid "gas" like Coleman fuel. There doesn't seem to be anything in the way of marine stoves that use this sort of fuel. The original old green Coleman camp stoves were a bit of a nightmare, but the small single burner backpacker stoves are much more highly refined, and could be mounted in a stainless steel tray with a grate with fiddles like a marine cooktop, and fed with a decent size remote tank with a pump that pressurized it like a weed sprayer. The result could be an in counter cooktop that while it would not be as easy to use as propane, as you have to preheat the generator briefly, could operate on the same fuel as your outboard. Only one fuel to carry, and no heavy steel tanks that you have to have filled or exchange. Those tiny little stoves pump a LOT of BTUs, taking only about 3-4 minutes to boil a quart of water.
Back in the mid 70's I was no longer able to find white gas, and was forced to use Coleman fuel at an outrageous price for my backpack stove, camping stove, and lanterns.......... about 12 times the price of gas. I rebelled and began distilling motor fuel to use in these. A cheap simple apparatus built from an old pressure cooker, some copper pipe coiled inside plastic pipe with water flowing through the for a condensor, a meat thermometer, and a hot plate, much of it from second hand stores and yard sales put me in the distillation business. The resultant fuel was clear as water, and had none of the additives. I ended up with about a pint of very red fairly heavy liquid, and three and a half quarts of beautiful fuel from a gallon of gas. It was as easy as falling off a log, and took little time or energy to distill. My friends and I used many gallons of this fuel, and it was superior in most ways to Coleman fuel, and for some reason cleaner than white gas had been, in that cleaning jets was not as common, nor did it clog generators with buildup as white gas did over time.
My first foray into distillation was a success, and encouraged me to try other similar projects. Most folks seemed horrified that I was boiling gasoline, even though I explained to them that this was exactly what a refinery did, in fact I could, using the thermometer that went through a hole in the top of the pressure cooker, determine when each fraction came off and had a pretty good idea of what they were. The thermometer told me when to stop, just as it does when distilling alcohol (for motor fuel of course ;-). The pressure cooker of course was not necessary, it just was convenient as the top came off, and it had a good seal so my vapor went where I wanted it to go. A simple solar still could be built that would be light weight and easy to build, though I haven't done that....yet.
A common complaint with foreign voyaging into remote areas is difficulty getting your propane bottles filled, or getting alcohol for an alcohol stove. Some foreign propane bottles use different connections I've heard. The advantage of being able to buy only one fuel at the fuel dock, and store that fuel in lightweight cans instead of heavy bottles that need to be vented overboard is both convenience when ashore, and cost. Explaining to customs why you have a still on board might be a bit of a challenge though. It's commonly held that these kinds of cook stoves are inherently unsafe, and insurance companies have some pretty inflexible ideas. They have many strange ideas about what is and is not safe.
H.W.
Not below decks on my boat. I use a Kerosene stove and always have. When I lived aboard, had a three burner with oven. On my 21 footer I had a different one burner. Now I have an antique kero stove from England- brass and survived the "melt brass for artillery shells" from WWII.
Decent kero is rarely available anymore like it was when My grandmother cooked on kero. Then it was water white. So I use 100% Mineral Spirits Available anywhere cause paint gets thinned with it all over.
I have two alcohol stoves stored in shop, take outs from older boats I've re worked. Dinosaurs now. Alcohol is THE most expensive fuel you can use for long term cruising. In the Bahamas, in 2010, a gallon of stove alcohol was $30 !!
Pics are the old single burner on the 21 foot boot, in use in the cockpit, and my current stove on Tehani and in use offshore
Well, I had one of those Coleman stoves, but replaced it with a propane one, and don't take that one on the boat. I have a nice stainless butane stove for the Com-Pac. It uses canisters I buy at the Chinese grocery store, because, well, I guess they are popular there and the canisters are cheap.
I have a Jet Boil backpacker stove that the PO used on the WindRider; I guess I might try it some time if I do need to cook while on a trip with that boat.
I'm really not talking about something that bears much resemblance to the gas stoves we are used to like the old green Coleman stoves. The tank would not be anywhere near the stove, probably being stored similarly to a propane tank....in a locker with an overboard drain. You would not be slopping liquid gas around inside the cabin. Pressurizing would be done at the remote tank with a few strokes similar to what is done with one of those plastic hand held garden sprayers, and the supply to the stove would be via good copper line well routed and anchored. Probably safer than propane routed into the galley. Considering the fact that people have inboard gas engines, and outboards, and we handle gasoline all the time, I find it difficult to understand the fear of this concept as compared to propane. The stove would be slightly less convenient to operate.... pump up pressure at the tank if it didn't have pressure, light it to heat the generator to warm things before you can get a proper flame, then it is pretty much exactly like propane.
H.W.
Speaking of stoves, anyone had any experience with the propane 2 burner gimbaled stove from Eno? I kind of like the idea of it being gimbaled instead of one that's mounted flush in the counter.
Last month's Good Old Boat had an article of installing one of those Camp Chef 2 burner stoves with oven. At $250.00, thinking about it...
Quote from: misfits on February 02, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
Speaking of stoves, anyone had any experience with the propane 2 burner gimbaled stove from Eno? I kind of like the idea of it being gimbaled instead of one that's mounted flush in the counter.
I've been thinking about replacing my cold, old, fixed propane cooktop with one of those when I redo the galley sometime in the next year or two. Looks good to me. I'm not committed yet, though. I'm thinking an oven ($$$) might be nice. But then, I hardly use the oven at home, so maybe not a big deal, especially given the extra work involved in setting the galley up for it.
I'm also considering going Origo (Alcohol) for the simplicity. I'm not a big chef, so I'd probably be OK with that.
When I need an oven I use my pressure cooker, with the gasket removed.. You get round cakes or loaves of bread, but can bake potatoes nicely. Cruised for almost three years, full time using it. PLUS you get a great cook pot with a locking lid:)
You do need to find a way too elevate the bread or cake pan up from bottom- I use a clay flower pot saucer turned upside down
That's the exact stove I have on Allure...
In hindsight I would have went drop in not gimballed...
Could have had a drawer under in the space.
Good suggestion Charlie on using a pressure cooker.
Frank, How do you like the Eno? Can you get a decent size pan on it? Do the pot holders & gimbals actually work?
Godot, I believe the Origo can also be set up with gimbals. If I go with the Eno I'll probably just run it off 1 pounders for the time being.
It actually works fine.
Left burner is smaller and uses far less propane so unless I'm boiling a big pot... I use it 95% of the time.
It does actually gimbal.... And can be "fixed" as well. Note: the plastic knob on the bolt to fix it in place from swinging will melt if a pot is too close and on high.
The pot holders do work.
It's not a huge stove but takes a decent pot. Better with the holders off for big pots or pans.
I've never needed the gimbal and wish it was a drop-in so the space beneath could be a drawer.
Well, I do desire a gimballed stove. I have hopes for some extended offshore trips in the future. In the meantime, I have used a Sea Cook (I think...or something similar) swinging stove at sea; but it is kind of in the way of the passageway and it scares me a little when trying to squeeze by it (or more usually, the wife, on the way to the head). Plus I'd hate to depend on those one pound propane canisters.
The one thing that kind of bothers me about a setup like yours, Frank, is that the stove is necessarily really low in order to be able to put the filler in place atop the stove. I'd prefer the stove top to be more or less level with the top of the counter; but then the gimbal arms would stick up above the counter by four inches or so which would look pretty weird and not allow the counter filler.
Possibly, instead of mounting the stove in a well it could just be bolted to the top of the counter. This would certainly simplify building the new galley and would allow drawer space underneath; but it would remove the possibility of having extra counter space.
I probably will not end up with an oven. I like the idea; but I doubt the cost/benefit ratio would work to my favor.
there were two Swing stoves. The Sea Cook, which I have, and the Sea Swing, which mkay still be made. In my opinion it was the inferior of the two.. The pot holder was not as good, and the mounting sucked. It left a 2 inch metal rod sticking out when the stove was stowed, The Sea COOK left a flat plate that couldn't jam into you. Both were gimbaled
Here's my Sea Cook, mounted in the boat. I removed the propane mounting, modified the base, an mounted a true antique British kerosene stove in it's place. I've looked for another base for a long time, but all the ones I've found were priced WAY too high. I do have a spare burner
second pic is set so you can see the heel angle
I put one of these on our Islander a year ago and love it. We don't live aboard but I spent over two months total on it last year. I buy the alcohol from Lowes at $15 a gallon, its worth the price of the fuel for the simplicity of use. We used two gallons last year for cooking, heating water for dish's and I heated the cabin one weekend with Charlie's flower pot idea. https://www.defender.com/large/400400_l.jpg
I found this at Hamilton Marine in Maine and it looks adequate enough. The Sea Cook and Sea Swing are available at boat junk places. The alcohol and kerosene burners to go with the Sea Swing are tough to find in my experience.
One could create a gimbled platform with some ingenuity.
https://shop.hamiltonmarine.com/products/portable-stove-butane-propane-w-electronic-ignition-44893.html
I have one of those butane stoves- Never leave the can in the stove, and store it in the plastic case.. The butane leaks a tiny bit and turns the plastic to junk- just crumbles to the touch
The kerosene burners such as I have are available in several places The one I use is base-camp.co.uk but there are others
Took this pic after coffee today
Shows pot sizes on the Eno
I see what you mean Frank about losing a drawer. The way the stove is installed gimbals wouldn't provide any relief for the side to side rocking motion. My old Kenyon was flush mounted in the counter. I don't believe there is 10" of drop between the counter & top of drawer below to accommodate the Eno gimbal on my boat.
Sunset, guess I need to download some data on that Origo with gimbal & see if that work.
Worst case, I got a coleman 2 burner propane stove that I know would fit between bottom of counter & top of drawer. Just wouldn't be gimbaled.
Thanks all!
On my old Seafarer that was the style I used. It was great. Very hot, though, and tough to turn down. Great for boiling water; but not so great for simmering or making eggs or something. I did eventually get a heat diffuser which helped.
I still have one floating around somewhere, along with a dozen or so canisters.
I found the single burner stove from Hamilton Marine interesting because it uses butane and propane. I do not have one, but it seems like a pretty useful galley stove because you can turn off the propane with a valve.
I think the sea swing type cookers using alcohol/kerosene are pretty ideal because the fuel can be bulk stored. Single one pound bottles of propane seem wasteful, bulky and dangerous if stored inside the boat.
Those one burners like PJim posted sure do cook up food/water fast. My concern with them if/when traveling is running out of the cans - although now you can buy them at great prices from Amazon in case lots, and I guess have them shipped to youjust about anywhere. Interesting that that model does dual-fuel, I guess that unlike CNG, butane and propane can use the same jet.
Re: using a liquid gas fueled stove as per Owly in the first post in this thread -
I had much the same thought process going on a few years ago, and lived most of that year using various small liquid gas camp cook stoves. It could be done, with a couple caveats from my experience.
The gold/brown, all-in-one Coleman Duel or Multi fuel unit is a neat contraption which uses the stoves own heat to vaporize fuel for the burner, and (weight aside) works really well for a typical 10-12 minute camping meal. It is not good for daily use simply because it is not designed to deal with lots of heat like that generated by cooking over an extended time. I found this out one evening when I noticed a small jet of flame coming right of of the fuel tank itself, where the rubber seal at the fuel control valve had begun to fail. Luckily I didn't have to deal with a bleve, but I did stop using that stove for more than a quick heating.
The other type of liquid gas stove is the type where the fuel tank is joined by a small hose, perhaps 8-10" long, and the tank is pressurized/fuel vaporized by means of a pump on the tank. These work better for extended periods of heat, as the fuel is removed from the burner location. They are still designed for camping use, though, and as such are built fairly flimsily, and not of marine-grade metals. The one I bought - cannot remember the brand name ATM - is has a green colored scheme to it, and was somewhat pricey. Because: not only does it burn liquid fuels, it will also hook up to propane and/or butane cylinders. This will be my backup stove, due to the fact that it'll burn just about anything short of wood and coal. :) I don't see it holding up to extended use, however.
Alcohol stoves of the type backpackers have been using for 20 or so years now ("Beer Can stoves") work great and use the least possible fuel to get the job done. Using them as burner units inside of an Origo alchy stove top would be the way to go, if that is your fuel of choice.
Note: I did have a beer can stove bleve on me one night, though. It was about 1:30 AM, and I was heading upriver in my dinghy, making a cup of coffee on the thwart, thinking it would help to keep me awake for the hour or so it would take me to get to the ramp.
I use the BCS sitting inside of a square Sterno stove, while water heated in a thin-wall, large aluminum cup. For some reason, just as it started going good, the was a little *pop*, and suddenly what seemed like hundreds of little blue stars bloomed all over the dinghy and my person. Not good. At least it was night, so I could see them. I threw the stove overboard, then put out all of flames on my corpus, then took care of the ones in the dinghy. I used an Esbit solid fuel tablet to finish heating coffee water that night. :)
I have one of the Camp Chef $250 stove/ovens, and overall it is a good product. The company has been great to deal with, the two times I have had to call them. That said, 'drawbacks' are that the materials used in construction are light and seem cheap, not sure how long or well it would hold up to a salty and wet environment if you were to take it to sea. The oven is not quite as wide/deep as our common 2 burner marine store, and overall it doesn't have the thermal mass (or insulation) to bake as well as the more expensive and common propane boat stove/ovens.
I have 2 of those. One was not working and I paid only $100. Looks like I will need to add in maybe $120 in parts for it to work properly - and in the rocess I have taight myself how these work, and how to work on them. :) The other was also used, but working, and I got it for about $250. These work great.
Last, if you come across a CNG stove/oven - forget it. Hard to find the fuel, and very expensive to convert to propane (~$500), and even converted they will not meet insurers specs.
Ah. for someone to manufacture and sell the pressurized alcohol (and kerosene) two burner marine stoves like Kenyon. I have one and it works like a charm with little maintenance. I bought it thirty years ago at a boat junk place and never regretted it. It is now our pot luck stove for marina events and a back up home cook unit. If we were to down size boats, I would not hesitate to use it as the galley stove.
I suspect they are around in boat junk shops.
More from Good Old Boat
https://www.audioseastories.com/mb-feb18/
Quote from: Phantom Jim on February 06, 2018, 09:54:37 AM
More from Good Old Boat
https://www.audioseastories.com/mb-feb18/
Yea I figured they were going to get alot of flack for that article.
Flush counter mounted stove, the 2 burner Dickenson looks really nice but at 600+, I don't think so. Downloaded the data on the 2 burner Origo on a gimbal it's s tall as the gimbaled Eno.
Quote from: Phantom Jim on February 06, 2018, 09:54:37 AM
More from Good Old Boat...
Love this by the author, made in the response to the predictable, to-be-expected screech of the "OMG Some Bad Poop MIGHT Possibly Happen And Could Be Fatal" overly risk-averse naysayers of our modern age:
"Another thing I consider is that many product warnings have more to do with liability than with actual risk. (Have you read a box of toothpicks lately?) The outdoor-use-only warning could easily be as much a caution about CO poisoning and oxygen depletion than about explosion risk."
If you could get one of these your worries would be over. It appears to have come in alcohol and kerosene versions. There were also freestanding (in the link) and in the counter models. The in the counter model could easily have a simple box constructed to make a portable unit.
I, personally, do not like or tolerate the sickly-sweet odor generated by the kerosene burners.
http://www.cookwithkenyon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Homestrand_Alc_Stove_Model_205A_Manual565.pdf
As an aside: if one were very careful and particular, the Good Old Boat article/installation could be made relatively safe. However, there always some fool who will blow himself up and blame the author and publisher for his lack of good judgement.
Quote from: CapnK on February 06, 2018, 11:48:27 AM
Quote from: Phantom Jim on February 06, 2018, 09:54:37 AM
More from Good Old Boat...
Love this by the author, made in the response to the predictable, to-be-expected screech of the "OMG Some Bad Poop MIGHT Possibly Happen And Could Be Fatal" overly risk-averse naysayers of our modern age:
"Another thing I consider is that many product warnings have more to do with liability than with actual risk. (Have you read a box of toothpicks lately?) The outdoor-use-only warning could easily be as much a caution about CO poisoning and oxygen depletion than about explosion risk."
<rant>
This is probably worth a whole new thread (or perhaps just thrown in the Burn Pit of Bad Ideas); but I am about fed up with all the safety Nazis of the world. And I'm not alone. Go to most forums or Facebook and read a thread about, well, almost anything, and as often as not the author will put in a lengthy caveat of all the safety measures he has taken ("yes I wore safety glasses, a helmet, an orange reflective vest, steel toes shoes and a life vest. I also checked the expiration date of all ingredients, used a lab certified thermometer to check the temperature, checked with the CDC, the FAA, the EPA, and the local fire department. And don't worry, I made sure to get a permit and full inspection from the Building Department. NOW, let me tell you how I made the world's best grilled cheese sandwich...").
If the caveat is skipped (and sometimes even if it isn't), there will be at least a handful of people asking, or demanding, that the original poster clarify some issue ("yes, your safety precautions look almost adequate, I guess, but you never posted the nutritional information to your grilled cheese sandwich!!").
I don't generally post sailing photos anymore because someone is very likely to scold me for not wearing a PFD. I have been told that I should be wearing a helmet (just in case the boom goes boom against my head). Single handing is irresponsible. I have injured myself before, and by admitting to the injury I'm more likely to be asked if I was wearing protective gear than if I am all right. I have been asked so many times this year about the Flu shot that I am simply unwilling to even consider it. I will not be badgered!
Life is dangerous. I, for one, am not willing to live in a bubble. I try to be educated about the risks I take, and I choose to take, or not, the precautions I feel necessary.
The whole risk averse nature of the world is getting tiresome. If someone sinks a boat a thousand miles offshore, he is berated upon rescue. I have come to believe that EPIRBs and satellite communications are a devil's deal, trading the favor of a chance at rescue and somewhat less personal responsibility for the ridicule and shame of rescue, and perhaps the eventual regulation of offshore sailing. Sailing is dangerous. Motorcycling is dangerous. Driving a car is dangerous. Camping is dangerous. Living in Baltimore is dangerous. Eating lots of fried foods is dangerous. The world is dangerous. Sooner or later something is going to put you down, whether it is an accident caused by inattention, inexperience, incompetence, or pure bad luck. Or if it is clogged arteries or a failed liver from lifestyle choices. No one gets out alive.
Someday, when the time comes for me to take off into the wild blue, I will probably have an EPIRB on the boat, though not so much for my sake as for those who love me at home. If the situation resolves where I don't have anyone who desperately worries about me, I will likely leave it behind. I do dangerous things. I don't want to die; but neither do I want to worry myself into not living. I make mistakes, frequently. And I've been known to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The possibility of imminent death has happened to me several times, and more than once I just barely managed to stay on the right side of the ground. Far too many of my friends have already passed. Life is very, very finite.
Be smart. And be careful. But not too careful. Live while you can. Someday that choice will be taken away from you. Someday, maybe soon, maybe many decades from now, your clock will run out. That is OK. It happens to all of us. Don't be so afraid of that day that you lose the joy of living today.
</rant>
(sorry about the rant...I meant to type a short, joking reply and got carried away. For what it is worth I checked my box of toothpicks and can happily report that they don't have a warning label on them. Although, I simply don't remember what
decade they where purchased.)
Quote from: Phantom Jim on February 06, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
If you could get one of these your worries would be over. It appears to have come in alcohol and kerosene versions. There were also freestanding (in the link) and in the counter models. The in the counter model could easily have a simple box constructed to make a portable unit.
I, personally, do not like or tolerate the sickly-sweet odor generated by the kerosene burners.
http://www.cookwithkenyon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Homestrand_Alc_Stove_Model_205A_Manual565.pdf
I had one, long, long ago, when I was collecting parts for a boat I was planning to build. I ended up giving it away. Tried it once. Didn't like it. But the problem could have been user error.
Now-a-days, not too many people seem happy with pressurized alcohol, and practically no one (Charlie aside) uses kerosene anymore. So many draw backs and not too many advantages over a non-pressurized alcohol stove. But, if you want one, I bet you could find one in second hand stores or on e-bay.
Lol. Charlie doesn't use kerosene either. 😊
I burn 100% mineral spirits. Burnsmuch cleaner than kerosene and doesn't smell the same
Two 👍👍 and a grog for the rant Adam!!
You rock Adam!
I agree with you that many are not into pressurized alcohol (kerosene). It is a bit of trouble to prime and light, but it does cook good and in my experience hotter than non-pressurized alcohol. I find the pressurized alcohol is more like butane, propane and natural gas that one experiences at home.
It is another tool that can be used by small boat owners. Alcohol will not blow you up but it will burn your boat up if you get it lit inside of a cabinet. It is easy to put out with water, but the flames are so hard to see.
I really like Charlie's approach: fit what fits and what works for you and your boat. One pot cookers are so much better than no cooker at all!
You guys are the best.
You're all grog worthy!
Actually I began using a kerosene stove back pre 1980. When I was building my trimaran. we lived in a tar paper cabin in the boatyard. I bought a 3 burner stove with an oven which we used until til boat was launched, then moved it aboard. All stainless with a 2 gallon tank separate from the stove with a hose. Pressurized with a bicycle pump
Stove was built by Shipmate, all stainless, and served us well for many year. Sadly it seems Shipmate has quit making that sort of stove
Then aboard my next vessel I had a single burner kero stove made in Germany. Still have that, but all the valves are shot so it can no longer be pressurized
No pics of the 3 burner, but this one is the single. All were always run on mineral Spirits. Pic is coffee being brewed at anchor in Florida on a trip over there. Legs belong to my Ex
Charlie, that is a perfect little burner with a good stable base. There some new and older gasoline single burners that would do in a cockpit, or inside once filled and sealed. The gas needs to be stored outside so it cannot get into the boat, though.
The accompanying photo is a Coleman Peak burner that burns either white gas and mineral spirits, via different attachments to the burner top. This is our backup burner when we cruise. We always have mineral spirits or kerosene for an oil anchor light. Should our propane become inoperable, we can continue our cruise with some cooking ability.
If I were to use the burner as my only cooking source, I would fine some way to make a more stable base.
The above pictured Coleman stove is of the style which IMO in not suitable for long-term cooking jobs (like baking, or making several pots of food on a row) due to the heat generated being so close to the tank and the pretty small rubber seals that are used to keep it enclosed within. Cooking longer than say 20 minutes, the tank begins to heat up, especially if you are using a large pot on top of the burner, and it is reflecting heat back downwards.
They are a great little stove for quick camping food, and I like them for that - don't get me wrong! In fact, I have 2 of them, haved used them kayaking and backpacking and such for a number of years. :)
But when you use one for long enough that you see flame start to spontaneously jet from the side of the fuel tank, you'll understand why I think there are better alternatives. ;D
You may well be correct about this burner not being suitable for long term cooking. The most i have used it was to heat the kettle in the picture. I may have to rethink my premise of a back-up cooker.
Thanks
I've had a Forespar mini 2000 gimballed single burner stove for years.
They quit making them....now back due to demand.
Pro's
Very light
Super easy to take off to store and re attach when needed (great, quick mounts!) (buy extra mounts...go galley and cockpit and ?)
Very fast heat...boils water quickly
Small...stows well
Con's
Lightly built
Works best with their pots and coffee Parker ($$$)
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122
Pic of it on my ole Ariel
Hanging over the sink with cylinder off
Would make a great "heat water or soup" offshore stove in addition to a fixed larger unit below. Again...get an extra non intrusive mount for cockpit too.
PJim I wouldn't worry about it, you should be fine. :D Keep in mind I was using it daily and also experimenting, thinking long-term usage. In many years prior of using that style of stove casually (ie for camping) I never had a problem with it. What I learned is *only* that if I am going to be cooking something for a while, like a recipe that takes 30 minutes (time) to come together in a large saucepan (reflecting heat back onto tank), that isn't the best stove to use, especially given that I have alternatives. I'd use a butane/propane stove for that type of application, is all. :)
CaptK, I have not undertaken any changes yet and I may not have to. Wife and I are over 70 and long-term exotic cruising is well beyond our horizons. We are going to locally cruise until it is no longer fun or safe. We have other choices for a backup cooker than the one in the photo...it was just the smallest and used a fuel we commonly had on board.
I have available in my store room a Sea Swing (either alcohol or spirits), Sea Cook (propane), Kenyon Homestead 2 burner alcohol stove, butane single burner range, a roarer gas burner, and the Peak stove. I WILL NOT GO HUNGRY FOR WANT OF COOKING, EVER ;)
I do love my Sea Cook- and my 9 inch Wok is a perfect fit :)
Sauteed shrimp- beer and Tony Chacere's Cajun seasoning
This took two burners. On the San Bernard River when the crabbing was really good.
Well.....
If that doesn't just look like a high end restaurant served it up!
Great presentation
I imagine it tasted good too
Grog on the presentation 😄
Quote from: Phantom Jim on February 07, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
Wife and I are over 70 and long-term exotic cruising is well beyond our horizons.
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I'm 77 - why? met a singlehander in kys who was just under 100. AGE is a number- HEALTH is the key,
You are correct, it is the health. Our situation is that while we are still in good health, my wife's sailing skill and stamina are decreasing. We will cruise until it is no longer fun and safe. Hopefully many more years. She will not be having any fun if she is worried about me getting into trouble doing old man hijinks. I love her too much to imperil her because of my pride and bravado.
We are planning to get into the Colorado River Diversion Channel on the Texas Coast this spring to investigate the fishing and crabbing potential. When the San Bernard mouth was open I could catch more crabs that we could eat in a month by the time I had the boat battened down at anchor.
I found this marine salvage consignment store. Maybe it will help some of you guys outfit your boats.
https://www.mikescms.com/product-category/boat-interior/stoves/
Last weekend I uncovered part of my boat to access the cabin with a tape measure.
Defender had their yearly sale & wanted to buy a stove. Eno 2 burner, Origo gimbaled, to big & to tall. The Origo 2 burner counter mount, to wide. So I settled on the 2 burner Dickinson. Got the stove for under $500.00 & figured I spend half of that tearing the galley apart trying to make the other stoves fit.