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Captain Smollett

Quote from: Godot on August 04, 2011, 04:21:56 PM

We sail for our own benefit and enjoyment. Who could really dispute that? I find nothing st all wrong with it.


I think there well can be more to it than that?

What of the man who sails for his livelihood?  What of sailing for education of others?  What if someone sails to get from one place to another, and has simply chosen that means to do so (perhaps they cannot afford fuel, or inherited a sailboat or some such) and their need to make that trip is not just for enjoyment.

"For our own benefit" is a loaded phrase, though.  We have jobs for our own benefit, we eat for our benefit, we marry for our own benefit, but these are not typically seen as selfish acts.  They are merely the acts of living beings.  Technically selfish, I suppose, but only if you view life itself to be selfish in the same fashion.

By that definition, EVERYTHING we do is selfish, and since in this philosophy there is no non-selfish, the mention is superfluous.  I happen to think 'selfishness' is a balance - did I serve other's needs today, or ONLY my own.  Did I perhaps do without so another could have?  That is the distinguishing line (in my mind), and within that frame, I don't think sailing, or any other activity, HAS to be considered selfish by definition at all.

Consider: what if I am an angry person who takes out my work stress on my family - my wife and children - in a very destructive way.  Serendipity leads me to learn that a few hours of sailing per week, alone on the water with my thoughts and fears, vents a sufficient amount of that stress that I no longer allow it to bleed onto my loved innocents.  Is sailing in this context selfish?

Sorry...I've just been elbow deep in philosophical analysis of the Bill of Rights, the concept of Rational Anarchy and fundamental definitions of "the human condition" as it relates to freedom, personal responsibility and governance.  Thus, I am in a very contemplative and philosophical frame of mind.
S/V Gaelic Sea
Alberg 30
North Carolina

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.  -Mark Twain

Godot

Quote from: Captain Smollett on August 04, 2011, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Godot on August 04, 2011, 04:21:56 PM

We sail for our own benefit and enjoyment. Who could really dispute that? I find nothing st all wrong with it.


I think there well can be more to it than that?

What of the man who sails for his livelihood?  What of sailing for education of others?  What if someone sails to get from one place to another, and has simply chosen that means to do so (perhaps they cannot afford fuel, or inherited a sailboat or some such) and their need to make that trip is not just for enjoyment.


Perhaps a person COULD sail for his livelihood, or education. I'm not sure anyone here does, though, and if so they are the exception to the rule. As well, sailing as a mode of transportation does not make much sense outside of a recreation standpoint in this day and age, although I have a deep seated fear in the pit of my belly that that may change in the future (not because transportation by sail in a bad thing; but because the economy and society would have to have degraded significantly to make it practical again).  I think for nearly everyone (your angry person example not withstanding), we sail because it brings us joy, not for the benefit of anyone else; although we may try to justify it otherwise.  There are exceptions to every rule in life; but that doesn't disprove the point.

Now, is doing something selfishly for ones own benefit wrong, evil, or otherwise undesirable? In my humble opinion, provided you aren't unreasonably damaging someone else (sailboats "ruining" a sea side cottage's ocean view does not count as reasonable in my book),  increasing personal joy is a very moral thing to do.  I, personally, look at it as a responsibility to enjoy as much as possible the short span of time we have on this planet.

Adam
Bayfield 29 "Seeker"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

Captain Smollett

Quote from: Godot on August 04, 2011, 05:09:06 PM


Perhaps a person COULD sail for his livelihood,


A person COULD?  Might that be taken as a bit insulting?  I know of 1000's of sailing coaches, harbor tour guides, tall ship cruise ship crews and small crewed charter captains that make their living on the water.  There are also still sailing fishermen in other parts of the world.

Some of the above I know personally.  I knew one officer of a sailing cruise ship that died at sea.

There are also folks who make their living writing or via photography, or perhaps even via repairs to other boats.  I know one very gifted woodworker/carpenter who has sailed around the world, and drops his anchor where he thinks he can find work.  When work in that area dries up, he picks up anchor and heads to another - even if it means crossing an ocean.  He has the strongest work ethic of any human being I have ever met, working in all weather sometimes 14 hours a day, and he travels out of town to an inland city where he continues to work weekends.  When he does take time off to sail just for fun (which I've never seen him do in the nearly three years I've known him), he's earned it.  But he DOES sail across oceans to find work in different areas.

I'm struggling how to call a man's chosen livelihood and means to execute it 'selfish.'  Sorry...I just don't agree at all.


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or education.


How-to and racing coaches, national military training programs that use sailing to instill camaraderie, teamwork and seamanship (the US and Brazil come to immediate mind) are not exceptions...there's bunches of them out there.

Also, we can consider historians and adventure sailors that do historical re-enactments.  These programs test theories about what was possible with a given technology and help historians properly analyze the clues they have about specific events.

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I'm not sure anyone here does, though,


I know several people on this web site alone that make livings via sailing.  We might call them exceptions if we want, but the statement was that SAILING was selfish, not just the subset of sailfar sailors.

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and if so they are the exception to the rule.


I'm not sure what ratio of a subset to the whole defines an exception.  I maintain that there are many thousands of people worldwide that sail not JUST because of pure selfish recreation and fun as you assert.

Further, recreation, as my 'angry man' example was meant to show, is not necessarily selfish.  Man needs recreation.  Sailing is no more selfish than watching a football game, playing golf or simply sitting on the front porch watching the grass grow.  No man "works" 24 hours per day, or even the 16 or so waking hours.

Without some form of recreation, and ALL human societies have it, a man becomes unhealthy pretty quickly.  As I said, staying healthy in this fashion may well serve the others around him.

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  As well, sailing as a mode of transportation does not make much sense outside of a recreation standpoint in this day and age


Only within a very narrow minded definition of what "makes sense."  I happen to think sailing makes a TON of sense: it's environmentally clean, quiet and the transportation cost itself is zero.  Many times, I've used a sailboat to get from point a to point b, and while the sailing itself was enjoyable, it was a mode of transportation.

If *YOU* don't think it makes sense for *YOU*, that's fine.  But please don't paint it with such a broad brush - a very ethnocentric brush it seems, as I assume you are saying it does not make sense due to one parameter - time.

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I think for nearly everyone (your angry person example not withstanding), we sail because it brings us joy,


That would only be selfish if that is the ONLY reason a person sails.  That which brings us joy is not, prima facie, selfish.  For example, I get tremendous joy witnessing my children accomplish something on their own, independent of any input from me.  I think that's the antithesis of selfishness as I have neither a part in the accomplishment nor do I explicitly benefit in any way, shape or form. 

For that matter, I feel a similar joy when I see ANY human being accomplish a difficult task on their own, whether they are my children or related to me or not.

That's my one example to infer that joy != selfishness, and logic requires only one such example to reject the premise.

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not for the benefit of anyone else;


Have you never witnessed a sailing coach teaching a child to sail?  Or a charter captain bringing the joy of a unique sailing vacation to a couple that could not directly enjoy that mode of travel on their own?  These people may well enjoy what they are doing, but it ALSO benefits others.  And through gainful employment, they provide for their families and meet responsibilities.  By their clients getting recreation and something fulfilling in THEIR lives, even for a short time like a vacation, they can better provide for THEIR families or grow into responsible adults, etc.

It's kinda like, you know, a connected web...a whole of social benefit, if you will.

I can think of MANY examples where the act of one sailor directly benefits others.  Indirect benefits, such as the Leukemia Society's "Sail America" program and "Ocean Watch," also can be listed.  I am sure we are hoping to include this Triton RTW effort to fit this category.

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although we may try to justify it otherwise. 


Just because someone enjoys what they do, that does NOT make it in itself selfish.  At least I don't believe it does.  My angry man, the sailing coach, the ocean watch crew are a few examples.  I personally don't think they are exceptions, but your opinion may differ.  I don't for a second believe that just because something is recreation it is equated with selfish.

There ARE selfish sailors ... no doubt.  I am not sure which group is the exception.

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Now, is doing something selfishly for ones own benefit wrong, evil, or otherwise undesirable?


Yes.  Selfishness is evil in my opinion.  As I said before, I define this as a balanced whole of one's life, though, not necessarily as the individual actions.  Engaging in a recreational activity that gives one enjoyment is not selfish; pursuing it to the exclusion of family obligations or spending money you don't have (ie, credit debt) to do it might be, to use a couple of examples.

I know selfish people...I am related to some.  It's not a character trait I care to accept or make excuses for.

It seems you and I have different life philosophies on this subject.  That's fine.  I think I've stated my side as clearly as I can, so I won't need to belabor the points further.
S/V Gaelic Sea
Alberg 30
North Carolina

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.  -Mark Twain

mrb

Quote from: tomwatt on August 04, 2011, 07:54:37 AM
Wonder how he manages to cook/eat? Short of burning anything that floats by, I'd guess that if he managed to stock enough food and water aboard, he'd start running into fuel storage issues next. Unless he's stocking pre-packaged ready-to-eat meals that need no water or cooking. But even a 6 month's supply of MREs is going to overflow the vee-berth and beyond.


He plans on taking a years supply of dehydrated meals that will need only boiling water to cook.  The mre,s would be cruel and unusual punishment beside being against regs to eat that many in a row.  The trash would overflow the boat.  Unbelievable how much trash one of those things can generate. 
for water he will have a water maker and catch rain water,  did not mention fuel.

tomwatt

Sadly MRB, MRE's consumption period got extended, so they can feed you for a long, long time on them. But  yes, they and their civilian counterparts generate considerable amount of waste wrappings, etc.
:P
I realize kerosene/diesel/jp8 provide a lot of bang for the buck, but since I'm brain-dead about math, how would one calculate a year's supply of cook-time? Can he really carry that much juice aboard... and does that leave any margin to spare (becalmed, etc.)?
1977 Nordica 20 Sloop
It may be the boat I stay with for the rest of my days, unless I retire to a cruising/liveaboard life.
1979 Southcoast Seacraft 26A
Kinda up for sale.

okawbow

My wife and I just finished over 3 months of cruising. We cooked on a homemade sterno stove, using a small pressure cooker. We used 36 cans of sterno, or about 12 a month. A 72 can box of sterno is about 1 cubic foot. It can't spill, and is safer than liquid fuel. The gimballed stove and covered pressure cooker made cooking at sea in bad weather possible.

Eating freeze dried and dehydrated food gets old after a while, but it is certainly possible to store enough of it in a Triton to last 1 year.

I'm hoping he makes it.
Here he lies where he long'd to be;  
Home is the sailor, home from the sea,  
  And the hunter home from the hill.

Captain Smollett

Quote from: tomwatt on August 05, 2011, 06:23:30 AM

how would one calculate a year's supply of cook-time? Can he really carry that much juice aboard... and does that leave any margin to spare (becalmed, etc.)?


Two points.

The first is that the answer will have to come from his trials, and is why you DO trials before starting a trip like this (unlike some people's approach).  For example, I know that our 10 lb bottle of propane lasts about 3 months with consistent use.  To go a year, we'd need to plan based on that number (or about 40 lbs).

The next point is margin for error.  In planning for a year, he's already built in 2 months of margin, since he thinks the trip will really take about 10 months.  Likewise, my 40 lb number above has some margin built into it already, since that's 3 months of CONSISTENT use.  We can lower our consumption by altering "consistent."

With these two built-in margins, there would be no excuse to run out of fuel.  But, I maintain you cannot know this from armchair planning or Internet forum reading.  You have to do it, with YOUR cooking style and the meals YOU cook, and how hot YOU want water for dishes, coffee, etc, etc etc.  It matters.

There's no substitute for trials and experiment.

My two cents...
S/V Gaelic Sea
Alberg 30
North Carolina

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.  -Mark Twain

phil416

I feel he has a chance to make it.  Water will be a concern, I consumed about 1/2 Gal. per day.  Pills can help with vitamin C etc. I relied upon canned juices, a lot of space for 1 year.  My chief concern is that to keep his schedule he will put tremendous strains on his gear, as speed increases the loads grow exponentionly.  Being a prudent sailor, he will have a bailout plan for every leg of his voyage.  There is no disgrace in stopping.  I wish him the best.  Phil
Rest in Peace, Phil;

link to Phil's Adventure thread.

s/v Faith

Quote from: okawbow on August 05, 2011, 08:21:59 AM
My wife and I just finished over 3 months of cruising. We cooked on a homemade sterno stove, using a small pressure cooker. We used 36 cans of sterno, or about 12 a month. A 72 can box of sterno is about 1 cubic foot. It can't spill, and is safer than liquid fuel. The gimballed stove and covered pressure cooker made cooking at sea in bad weather possible.

Eating freeze dried and dehydrated food gets old after a while, but it is certainly possible to store enough of it in a Triton to last 1 year.

I'm hoping he makes it.

Our '2nd burner' stove is a sterno sea swing.  I love it.... but apparently you and I(and Rose) are the only people in the known universe who are willing to cook on the 'cool' flame of Sterno.
Satisfaction is wanting what you already have.

Godot

Quote from: Captain Smollett on August 04, 2011, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Godot on August 04, 2011, 05:09:06 PM


Perhaps a person COULD sail for his livelihood,


A person COULD?  Might that be taken as a bit insulting?  I know of 1000's of sailing coaches, harbor tour guides, tall ship cruise ship crews and small crewed charter captains that make their living on the water.  There are also still sailing fishermen in other parts of the world.


Man, I sure didn't mean to get you all riled up.  I sure didn't mean to insult anyone.  I think you are taking my comments a little too seriously.  The truth is the vast majority of us participate in sailing for no other reason than we enjoy it.  I don't think that can seriously be disputed.  Someone, somewhere, is making money doing everything under the sun.  heck, drug users are providing steady employment for the illegal drug trade (I know, an extreme example; although less extreme than my first thought).

I think maybe we also have a different feel for the word selfish.  I don't see it necessarily as a negative.  I strongly suspect that if we all just did what it took to make ourselves happy, and darn the torpedoes, the world would be a better place.  I'm not talking of shirking responsibilities.  Just the opposite.  I'm talking of taking responsibility for our own happiness.  This viewpoint probably comes directly from my failed marriage where I spent very little time on myself and was generally pretty miserable.  Call it healthy and necessary selfishness.

And with that, I am almost done except to say that in our first world society, sailing is not terribly practical as transportation because speed often matters (sorry boss, the wind was contrary...I'll be a couple days late), and for the majority of us, where we have to go is not exactly seaside.  If you, or others, have managed your lifestyle where it is practical, then good for you.  For most people that I know, though, it is clearly not practical.  I think a serious societal reorganization would be required to change that.  Given the changes that the world is going through, though, you never know...
Adam
Bayfield 29 "Seeker"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

tomwatt

Quote from: Captain Smollett on August 05, 2011, 09:51:14 AM
Two points.

The first is that the answer will have to come from his trials, and is why you DO trials before starting a trip like this (unlike some people's approach).  For example, I know that our 10 lb bottle of propane lasts about 3 months with consistent use.  To go a year, we'd need to plan based on that number (or about 40 lbs).

The next point is margin for error.  In planning for a year, he's already built in 2 months of margin, since he thinks the trip will really take about 10 months.  Likewise, my 40 lb number above has some margin built into it already, since that's 3 months of CONSISTENT use.  We can lower our consumption by altering "consistent."

With these two built-in margins, there would be no excuse to run out of fuel.  But, I maintain you cannot know this from armchair planning or Internet forum reading.  You have to do it, with YOUR cooking style and the meals YOU cook, and how hot YOU want water for dishes, coffee, etc, etc etc.  It matters.

There's no substitute for trials and experiment.

My two cents...
All great points. I guess the reason I questioned his fuel capacity was 'cause I closed my eyes and thought about my own tendency to want to enjoy coffee, along with all the hot water heating that entails over and above the routine cooking and just saw a need for a huge fuel supply. It didn't occur to me at all that my boots wouldn't fit his feet.

Thanks, tom
1977 Nordica 20 Sloop
It may be the boat I stay with for the rest of my days, unless I retire to a cruising/liveaboard life.
1979 Southcoast Seacraft 26A
Kinda up for sale.

Pappy Jack

He says he started sailing about a year and a half ago and has done some off shore racing. His venture is a little more than two years away so I suppose it's doable. I can see the excitement in doing something like this but as for me...no. For one thing I'm too old but that aside, it's would be just too boring and stressful in a boat that size.

I might donate to the cause (I just love tits ::)) but won't do it for another year or so. I just to see if he is still around or not. What you guys do is up to you of course.

Fair winds,

Pappy Jack

Captain Smollett

In regard to "why" different people sail...

Some people get it   ;D


And some people don't.   ::)
S/V Gaelic Sea
Alberg 30
North Carolina

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.  -Mark Twain

CapnK

Posted by CapnK, but written by Thomas, the sailor in question, cap'n of The Pink Boat. :)

Thomas - if you want to cut-n-paste this into your own reply, feel free, and I will then delete this post...


And I'd also like to say that I appreciate Thomas' attitude in what he has written below, despite the what could be considered perhaps 'adversarial nature' of some of what has been posted in this thread so far. :)

OK, here is Thomas' answer:

QuoteWow, what a great thread. I really appreciate all the feedback in here. As some as you noticed, this is a new site and I wrote it all myself so you unfortunately struggled through a few of my mistakes. Turns out IE8 on XP didn?t send a correct header so my GZIP compression code was failing. More importantly, my about me page is lame. Turns out, its really hard to write an about me page and I am busier than heck prepping my boat, putting it back together for races, working my full time job and running this non-profit so some things take a back seat. As far as technology wars go, I prefer not to discuss religion . But again, I apologize for the coding error on my part, I am kinda busy with this whole thing so massive regressions tests aren?t the highest order priority?. Enough about stuff that doesn?t matter.

Before the flaming begins, I am not a writer so please excuse any mistakes.

A lot of people are very cynical of my trip. I get bombarded all the time with Why Breast Cancer, Why so publicly, why not lung cancer, and I will add, why speed record, why start before the trip, how will you take enough supplies, sailing experience, boat prep, where does the money go?

Experience? Prep? I started sailing about 2 years ago. I appear to be darn good at and I really love doing it. It?s the only thing I do. I have double handed from Hawaii to San Francisco and have done a 400 mile solo race on Darwind in a gale. (You can read about that on the site if you want) I have sailed about 6000 miles. I plan on completing the Single Handed Transpac and return single handed from Hawaii adding another 5000+ single handed miles. I race single handed in the OYRA and am currently in 2nd place by two points (with a triton). I have rebuilt her from the ground up, new rudder, transducers, mast, boom, rigging, outboard chainplates,  wind, solar,  winches, lines, windvance, autopilot, SSB, electronics, removed the atomic 4 and replaces with 6 volt battery bank, cockpit lockers, on and on and on. I have turned every bolt myself and make every connection. I ?could? leave today except for the watermakers and I have creature features I want to finish on the inside first. I can navigate by sextant and I am learning self-administered first-aid.

How will I take enough food? Someone was right, only one way possible, dehydrated foods. I will have two PUR 40e watermakers with rebuild kits and an all else fails 20 gallon tank of water. My sea trials have shown that I can live on 4 meals a day (more than I need) and the 1400 meals and fuel required to cook them only weight about 700lbs and can easily be stowed on the boat. Remember, I have no engine or fuel, so that frees up a ton of space. I cook exclusively with my JetBoil and yeah, it sucks, but it?s the only way to make this happen. I will bring other things and catch fish (hopefully) but I certainly am not going to depend on that. Failure is not an option.


Speed Record in a Triton are you nuts? Yup, I am. 5kts avg VMG gets me around in 8 months. My boat easily does 6 and during the 2011 longpac a had a 145 mile day with 30kts of breeze on a beam reach. I expect the conditions to be similar and I should be able to finish quickly and why shouldn?t I try for that? If I can average just over 4kts I will snatch the record. Heck yes I am going for it!

Why Breast Cancer? It affects us all. 1 in 8 women will have to fight this disease. It?s affected my family and am fortunate to still have survivors with me. A lot of people I love are not so fortunate. Sailing is the thing I do best and by painting my tiny boat pink and attempting to do something that hasn?t been done, I can make the greatest difference. I think someone in this thread mentioned that it appears I ?went looking? for a cause. Well, what if I did? Is that so bad? When I am done, I will have raised 1 million for the BCRF and that is more than I could ever personally open my wallet for? Does it matter what order this crazy idea of mine came in? Whoever noticed that is right. When I first decided to sail around the world it wasn?t to save the ta-tas but I soon realized the potential power of doing just that. I am not sure if anyone has tried to run a non-profit reading this, but I can assure you, it?s a massive undertaking. I am proud to be doing this trip for them and the BCRF could not be more excited to have me as a partner.

Why so publicly, why so soon? Curing cancer is only a matter or resources. There is a cure for not only for breast cancer but all forms and if we could spend the defense budget for 10 years on cancer research we would have a cure. There is a critical mass of funding needed to cure cancer. Would anyone here be talking about me if I painted my boat orange and did this trip? Does anyone even know what color orange is associated with? Its MS and most people don?t know that. My friend who works for the MS society and has done all the graphic work for the site gets it. Its loud! I have one shot to do the most amount of good and this hands down in the best way I could do it. Lung cancer kills way more people but I would not be able to make as big a contribution if American Lung Cancer Society was the beneficiary of the trip. I sincerely hope that the million dollars in research I raise leads not only to the prevention and cure of breast cancer, but all forms. Someone had it perfectly right, raising 1 million dollars is no easy task and it takes time and effort. I am starting now, with a very public approach to raise as much awareness as I possibly can and do the most amount of good. Some people don?t think I have enough experience to be successful. I beg to differ. I think I could have more sure, but really, I am strong, healthy and have the desire. I am surrounded by ?dreamers? and ?tinkerers? who never leave the dock. Now is the time while I still can. What I don?t know, I will figure out.

Finally, where does the money go? I should have started with this one, it?s the easiest answer. AT LEAST 80cents of every dollar goes to the BCRF. The rest goes back to The Pink Boat to fund the operating costs of the pink boat inc and a few cents goes to buy equipment that will insure the success of the trip. Someone asked why not just give to the BCRF directly? If you don?t think what I am doing is worthwhile then donate directly to them! That is great! I have done my part and raising awareness and someone who might not have donated did. But, I personally feel that if you think what I am doing is worthwhile, then your donation goes further with The Pink Boat because specifically its publicity. The more the Pink Boat is supported, the more we can do. As of today, we just started The Pink Boat Regatta to be held October 23rd 2011 in the SF Bay and it will be hosted by the Corinthian Yacht Club. It takes money to host an event and its impossible to get all of the costs associated with an event like this donated. This is why donating to the Pink Boat actually makes your donation go further.

I really appreciate all encouragement and critical thinking about my voyage and mission and I hope to see you on the water someday. Please feel free to call my cell phone or email if you want to talk more. If you have suggestions on how I could do things better, I would love to hear them.

-Thomas
http://sailfar.net
Please Buy My Boats. ;)

DrClick

Wow, what a great thread. I really appreciate all the feedback in here. As some as you noticed, this is a new site and I wrote it all myself so you unfortunately struggled through a few of my mistakes. Turns out IE8 on XP didn?t send a correct header so my GZIP compression code was failing. More importantly, my about me page is lame. Turns out, its really hard to write an about me page and I am busier than heck prepping my boat, putting it back together for races, working my full time job and running this non-profit so some things take a back seat. As far as technology wars go, I prefer not to discuss religion . But again, I apologize for the coding error on my part, I am kinda busy with this whole thing so massive regressions tests aren?t the highest order priority?. Enough about stuff that doesn?t matter.
Before the flaming begins, I am not a writer so please excuse any mistakes.
A lot of people are very cynical of my trip. I get bombarded all the time with Why Breast Cancer, Why so publicly, why not lung cancer, and I will add, why speed record, why start before the trip, how will you take enough supplies, sailing experience, boat prep, where does the money go?
Experience? Prep? I started sailing about 2 years ago. I appear to be darn good at and I really love doing it. It?s the only thing I do. I have double handed from Hawaii to San Francisco and have done a 400 mile solo race on Darwind in a gale. (You can read about that on the site if you want) I have sailed about 6000 miles. I plan on completing the Single Handed Transpac and return single handed from Hawaii adding another 5000+ single handed miles. I race single handed in the OYRA and am currently in 2nd place by two points (with a triton). I have rebuilt her from the ground up, new rudder, transducers, mast, boom, rigging, outboard chainplates,  wind, solar,  winches, lines, windvance, autopilot, SSB, electronics, removed the atomic 4 and replaces with 6 volt battery bank, cockpit lockers, on and on and on. I have turned every bolt myself and make every connection. I ?could? leave today except for the watermakers and I have creature features I want to finish on the inside first. I can navigate by sextant and I am learning self-administered first-aid.
How will I take enough food? Someone was right, only one way possible, dehydrated foods. I will have two PUR 40e watermakers with rebuild kits and an all else fails 20 gallon tank of water. My sea trials have shown that I can live on 4 meals a day (more than I need) and the 1400 meals and fuel required to cook them only weight about 700lbs and can easily be stowed on the boat. Remember, I have no engine or fuel, so that frees up a ton of space. I cook exclusively with my JetBoil and yeah, it sucks, but it?s the only way to make this happen. I will bring other things and catch fish (hopefully) but I certainly am not going to depend on that. Failure is not an option.

Speed Record in a Triton are you nuts? Yup, I am. 5kts avg VMG gets me around in 8 months. My boat easily does 6 and during the 2011 longpac a had a 145 mile day with 30kts of breeze on a beam reach. I expect the conditions to be similar and I should be able to finish quickly and why shouldn?t I try for that? If I can average just over 4kts I will snatch the record. Heck yes I am going for it!
Why Breast Cancer? It affects us all. 1 in 8 women will have to fight this disease. It?s affected my family and am fortunate to still have survivors with me. A lot of people I love are not so fortunate. Sailing is the thing I do best and by painting my tiny boat pink and attempting to do something that hasn?t been done, I can make the greatest difference. I think someone in this thread mentioned that it appears I ?went looking? for a cause. Well, what if I did? Is that so bad? When I am done, I will have raised 1 million for the BCRF and that is more than I could ever personally open my wallet for? Does it matter what order this crazy idea of mine came in? Whoever noticed that is right. When I first decided to sail around the world it wasn?t to save the ta-tas but I soon realized the potential power of doing just that. I am not sure if anyone has tried to run a non-profit reading this, but I can assure you, it?s a massive undertaking. I am proud to be doing this trip for them and the BCRF could not be more excited to have me as a partner.
Why so publicly, why so soon? Curing cancer is only a matter or resources. There is a cure for not only for breast cancer but all forms and if we could spend the defense budget for 10 years on cancer research we would have a cure. There is a critical mass of funding needed to cure cancer. Would anyone here be talking about me if I painted my boat orange and did this trip? Does anyone even know what color orange is associated with? Its MS and most people don?t know that. My friend who works for the MS society and has done all the graphic work for the site gets it. Its loud! I have one shot to do the most amount of good and this hands down in the best way I could do it. Lung cancer kills way more people but I would not be able to make as big a contribution if American Lung Cancer Society was the beneficiary of the trip. I sincerely hope that the million dollars in research I raise leads not only to the prevention and cure of breast cancer, but all forms. Someone had it perfectly right, raising 1 million dollars is no easy task and it takes time and effort. I am starting now, with a very public approach to raise as much awareness as I possibly can and do the most amount of good. Some people don?t think I have enough experience to be successful. I beg to differ. I think I could have more sure, but really, I am strong, healthy and have the desire. I am surrounded by ?dreamers? and ?tinkerers? who never leave the dock. Now is the time while I still can. What I don?t know, I will figure out.
Finally, where does the money go? I should have started with this one, it?s the easiest answer. AT LEAST 80cents of every dollar goes to the BCRF. The rest goes back to The Pink Boat to fund the operating costs of the pink boat inc and a few cents goes to buy equipment that will insure the success of the trip. Someone asked why not just give to the BCRF directly? If you don?t think what I am doing is worthwhile then donate directly to them! That is great! I have done my part and raising awareness and someone who might not have donated did. But, I personally feel that if you think what I am doing is worthwhile, then your donation goes further with The Pink Boat because specifically its publicity. The more the Pink Boat is supported, the more we can do. As of today, we just started The Pink Boat Regatta to be held October 23rd 2011 in the SF Bay and it will be hosted by the Corinthian Yacht Club. It takes money to host an event and its impossible to get all of the costs associated with an event like this donated. This is why donating to the Pink Boat actually makes your donation go further.
I really appreciate all encouragement and critical thinking about my voyage and mission and I hope to see you on the water someday. Please feel free to call my cell phone or email if you want to talk more. If you have suggestions on how I could do things better, I would love to hear them.
-Thomas
616-485-3984, MrPink@ThePinkBoat.org





DrClick

Just thought I would give you guys an update. The boat is being painted pink right now by KKMI and the first Pink Boat Regatta is being held by the Corinthian Yacht Club Oct 23rd if you are in the Bay area, it would be great to see you on the course!

Pappy Jack

Okay, okay already ;) I've donated. Not as much as I would like for reasons too complex to mention.
I have a wife, a daughter and two granddaughters. Need I say more?

Good luck to you,

Pappy Jack

P.S. Here's a grog for ya for what you are doing.
P.P.S. Please keep us up dated...and send pic's.

DrClick

Hey Pappy, Thank you so much for donating! I just thought you guys would all like to know we collected 11,000 in net donations for the regatta. We were able to keep regatta expenses to about 1600 resulting in a net donation of 9500. We exceeded our commitment to donate 80% of our donations and donated 7700 to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation and retained 1800 for future events and expenses. You can check out the full race report on our site and several others. http://www.thepinkboat.org/Media.aspx has links to Latitude 38, The SF Chronicle and NorCal Sailing.

Next year I am racing to Hawaii Singlehanded and when I return, will be making Landfall in Seattle where we will be hosting another Pink Boat Regatta. After this its back to SF and then to San Diego for the final regatta of the year.

In boat news, I am currently replacing my broken mast beam, re-bedding the stanchions and jib car tracks, working on standing wave problem on the 4band of my SSB (PS, dont test your SSB while your shore side battery charger is running, I burned mine up...), and re-epoxying the Cape Horn wind vane thru transom tube (it broke lose I am guessing because I didnt rough up the stainless enough). All of this before the 10th of November as I am taking off for San Diego to attend the America's Cup World Series.

If any of you are going to be in San Diego, please hook up with me. My boat will be at the San Diego Yacht Club from the 15th through the 2nd of December.

If you live in Seattle, I just joined the Sloop Tavern Yacht Club and I am looking forward to having some beers up there very soon.

Also, a lot of people raised questions about not supporting me until I get closer to leaving. That was great feedback and we have one better for you, you can pledge your support and you don't have to donate until I successfully come back so you can rest assured this is for real.  http://www.thepinkboat.org/Pledge.

Thanks again for all of your support and I hope to see you on the water!

-Thomas

Pappy Jack

#38
Just to bring people up to date,here's a video of his boat being painted...PINK!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6kLrOlmMw&feature=related . A good cause but pink? ::)

Fair winds,

Pappy Jack






























DrClick

Just checking in with you guys! We finally got a video together. If you want to help, you can share this! http://www.thepinkboat.org/videos/PinkBoatProject.aspx