We were gifted some time ago with an original Stanley large thermos bottle that came off of an older aircraft. Those of you old enough to have flown during the prop passenger plane era may remember them - they used to serve coffee from them onboard the aircraft. It holds two quarts.
Now on board a boat, the mounting must match the interior of course and since Tehani is trinmmed inside with varnished ash, that's what was used-
Here's the mounting rack-
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and here's the thermos mounted IN the rack. The thermos is held into the rack with a velcro strap around the upper end.
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And of course the final shot of the whole thing on the bulkhead aboard Tehani.
It's situated directly over the sink so if you are dribbly getting a cup of water, the dribbles go into the sink-
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Cool CJ! Great idea.
Gettin' kinda fancy and high-falutin aren't we?
;D
Good idea, implemented well - I'm sure y'all will enjoy that little convenience. :D
Cool, Dude
You know, with you and your many talents and tricks though, I would have thought you would have made that on a 360 pivot pin, with a locking pin for the upright postion, just in case you get any wicking of the seal, which can happen and has happened in my old hunting one
Coastal- it's hanging directly over the sink so if it drips it all goes right into that.
Oh, I may have missed something, but I thought you removed the sink in that boat.
Nope- we removed the DRAIN. The sink is still there- it just lifts out to empty- no drain in it.
No through hulls in the boat at all anymore- actually NO holes below the waterline.
I've been thinking the same thing for my hunter. The holder had a fill and dump sink, was never a problem. That is the only thruhull near the waterline and I have been trying figure how to get around it. You just refreshed my memory!
CharlieH
Hi Charlie,
Our sink is a stainless steal steam table tray we got at a restaurant supply for $14. I had visions of it accidently getting dropped overboard while dumping it so we just got a spare one the other day. I'm using it as a storage bin in a settee locker 'til its day comes.
under the cockpit and her second anchor stowage also under the cockpit.
When we did the rebuild I built an area under the cockpit for a second water tank and some anchor stowage. Well- it's finally almost finished. Still need to install the drains in the anchor storage and fasten down the floor. But it's usable, so here's some pics.
First, the deflated tank, laying in place. It's lashed to eye straps at all four corners. when full there's not much place for it to go, but half empty, it could roll, hence the lashings. The tank is 70 liters, or close to 19 gallons. For those who are interested, the tank is a Vetus.
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Here's the tank full of water- You can see the fill head just aft of the storage space.
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And here's the floor in place and the 12 pound Danforth, 25 feet of chain and 200 feet of 1/2 nylon stowed. The 15 pound folding Northill we carry when cruising will also fit in there, but it's chain and rode must go elswhere.
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Interestingly I find I have no pics of the cockpit sole with the anchor storage cover in place. Have to shoot one tomorrow.
Very nice, Charlie! How ya secure the lid when it's on?
Hard to tell but ya still have comfortable footspace I am sure.
Geez, more to do now!!!!! ;)
This keeping up with the joneses is never ending! HAR!!
CharlieH
Is this a what is it thread? I don't know, but someone in my house says that it looks like a catheter and a bag to her. I must say that its a smart addition for the helmsman, indeed. ;D
Charlie- at the moment it just lays over there. We are going to install a deck plate into the cover and some latches underneath. Doesn't need to be real quick to operate, since offshore you won't need the second anchor ( first one either for that matter :D)and inshore we still have the one one the bow, so this one can be set at leisure.
Takes about 3 inches from the footwell, which Laura wanted smaller anyway. She STILL would like the cockpit to be smaller, but it'll do as is I think.
Coastal- tell that "SOMEONE" they are a smart alec ;) ;) ;)
It doubles our water tankage and used previously dead space plus the cockpit floor was rotted so I had to rebuild it anyway.
Can't complain about that can ya?
;D
Charlie - looks good ;D
. . . but dont ya just hate it when you see something clever like that and your mind starts spinning with possiblities? Curses
;D
John
"Keeping up with" the Jones's? Sheeesh - first I have to *catch up*... ;D
Nice work, good idea there, CJ!
How do you manage hot water for cleaning purposes?
All hot water on board Skylark is made in a whistle teakettle on a kerosene stove.
For the morning personal wash with a washcloth, I use water leftover from making coffee. It has usually cooled down to a level of somewhere between mildly hot and mildly cool. It would be nice to figure out how to get it the right temperature every time.
It is hard to get the right temperature by mixing hot with cold water and I often worry about burning myself on boiling hot water since you can't see what temperature it is. I think it comes down to having an idea of how hot the source water is and knowing how much cold water to mix with it. It is also a matter of timing, how long ago did this come off of the burner?
It is difficult to judge how much water is in the teakettle, you need just the right amount to avoid wasting water and the fuel to heat it.
Usually I make my coffee, drink some or all of the coffee and wash up afterwards, to save the bother of heating water twice. Sometimes I use a thermos carafe to hold hot water.
I often use bottled water for drinking and making coffee, and if I do that, I do not have extra hot water for washing, so I have to fill the teakettle seperately with water for cleaning and fire up the burner again.
For doing dishes after cooking and eating, I usually heat up water in the kettle after dinner and often while eating dinner. Sometimes I heat up water in the pot that I cooked in but this can get messy and the water is only good for washing. If I wait to heat water till I am done eating then it requires a seperate priming of the stove, which is not a big deal but it would probably be better planning to heat the water right after cooking. I suppose I could make an after dinner tea.
For cleaning the boat and doing laundry in a pail, I suppose heating an entire teakettle full of water to boiling and adding it to water in a pail would be a good way to get hot water for some intensive cleaning. This would not be an every day thing, usually I would use cold water. But if you really want something cleaned, hot water is the way to go, its easier on the hands too.
I assume that for personal washing and dishes, the answer is to have a dedicated thermos big enough to hold a quart or two.
I'm curious if anyone has any good ideas about how to make hot water on board.
How do you judge how much water to fill the teakettle with?
How do you know how hot the water is to avoid burning yourself?
Do you heat the water to boiling or just to a point where it is hot enough? How do you know if it is hot enough, when it steams?
How do you get the water to the proper temperature (wait till it cools, mix with cold water, etc)
How do you store the water (if you do)?
A lot of this eventually will come down to your routine for doing these things. I sort of have a routine but I think there might be some improvements.
Hot running water out of a tap is truly a luxury!
What you might want to do is invest in one of the really big coffee vacuum carafes that have the pump handle at the top. These hold about two-liters of water, and keep it pretty hot all day long. I have one at the house, but have no idea where to get one, since it was a gift from the local coffee shop owner.
It is really convenient, since when I want a hot drink, I just walk over to it with a mug and then fill the mug by pressing down on the pump handle. Always assume the water will come out scalding hot...and go from there... that way if you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised—instead of scalded.
As for whether the water is too hot.. you could always use something like this (http://www.babybungalow.com/totihese4ozf.html) to test it for you.
I was going to recommend the exact same thing!
we have a three litre vacuum urn witht he pump on the top and I made a cutout holder for it above the sink. A pot gets boiled of a morning and fills the urn, this gives all the needed hot water for most of the day.
Alex.
The other advantage of having it... is that you can boil water once... instead of having to fire up the stove over and over... and on a rough passage, you can make soup, coffee or tea, fairly easily without much hassle or danger if the vacuum carafe is full. Only drawback is you do need a fairly big teapot to heat the water in, since using a pot to boil water is way too dangerous IMHO.
Do you fill the thermos with boiling water or hot water? Do you use the thermos water for cooking/drinking or for cleaning purposes?
I used to use a thermos, but I generally only need hot water in the morning and then again to wash dishes. Occasionally during the day for bigger clean up jobs and washing hands (which can also be done with cold water). I found that I was heating a lot of water only to let it cool off during the day, so I stopped using the thermos.
Smollett made a good suggestion to use volumes of water to adjust the heat, for example 2 parts tank temperature water to 1 part boiling water, and then adjust the volumes to get the temperature you like. I'm thinking a simple thermometer might be a worthwhile investment to check water temps before splashing in it.
You only have to try to wash your hands in boiling hot water once and you will figure out that it looks the same as other water and it can be dangerous and painful. If it is steaming, be very careful! (voice of experience).
Quote from: skylark on April 18, 2007, 09:20:56 AM
I'm thinking a simple thermometer might be a worthwhile investment to check water temps before splashing in it.
Check in the housewares department of your food store for a meat cooking thermometer. They're inexpensive, compact, react quickly and have a 5 or 6 inch probe (usually used to to stab a chunk of meat.) That will keep your fingers well out of the way of the water while you hold the guage end, even in a rolling boat.
If you've turned off the heat under your teapot, you can probably just open the spout and stick the probe right in while letting the guage end sit out where you can monitor the water temperature as it cools.
Kevin
Quote from: skylark on April 18, 2007, 09:20:56 AM
Do you fill the thermos with boiling water or hot water? Do you use the thermos water for cooking/drinking or for cleaning purposes?
Hot water... unless it is for a long day out.. and the weather looks like it is going to get nasty... in which case I may use nearly boiling water, since it may be sitting in the thermos a good deal longer.
QuoteI used to use a thermos, but I generally only need hot water in the morning and then again to wash dishes. Occasionally during the day for bigger clean up jobs and washing hands (which can also be done with cold water). I found that I was heating a lot of water only to let it cool off during the day, so I stopped using the thermos.
I've found with a really good vacuum insulated carafe, the water is still quite hot even eight or nine hours later.
QuoteSmollett made a good suggestion to use volumes of water to adjust the heat, for example 2 parts tank temperature water to 1 part boiling water, and then adjust the volumes to get the temperature you like. I'm thinking a simple thermometer might be a worthwhile investment to check water temps before splashing in it.
You only have to try to wash your hands in boiling hot water once and you will figure out that it looks the same as other water and it can be dangerous and painful. If it is steaming, be very careful! (voice of experience).
I don't use a thermometer, but will mix some hot water with cold, until it is warm enough to suite. The risk of scalding oneself is pretty low if you start with cold water. Adding more hot water is pretty easy, due to the pump on the carafe.
We have a thermos mounted on the bukhead just over the sink. It has a turn spigot on it so you can just run water out. We also have a bigger "hot pot" with a pump on it. The Thermos is all stainless, the hot pot has a glass liner.
Normally when we make morning coffee, we pour the water into the french press, then add more and bring that to a boil. When it's boiling, we pour it into the thermos and hang it up. Good for later coffee, instant oatmeal, whatever.
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Charlie-
Like the setup. ;)
For a thermos, you was to get a real heavy expensive one like a Stanley or something. When I worked in an offive, I became a coffee snob. I brought in my own coffee in a Stanley. It stayed more than warm all day. From real hot at 7:30 to well more than warm at 2:00.
CharlieJ looks like he has a good one. Something other than Stanley? I like the set up too.
TrT
That thermos is an antique actually. And it IS a Thermos brand.
It's off one of the old aircraft- they used to serve coffee in flight from those many years ago ( 40's and 50's) A friend of ours works for the airlines and runs across things like that. He's given us a pair of them. Full of boiling water, they'll hold it very hot for 14- 16 hours. Less if half full of course.
More on the hot water and cups of coffee.
When we want a single cup and the french press is empty ( and our stainless Stanley is also) we use a Melitta single cup funnel and filter
You set the funnel on the cup, insert a filter , put in a spoon of coffee and run hot water through- instant drip coffee. Neither of us can STAND the taste of regular instant, so we use this both on the boat and at home.
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