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Ok, I know this sounds like a frivolous question... (maybe).

  I just had someone come into the office and ask for a cup of coffee.  I told them 'sure, but you might want to warm it up'.  I told them it was yesterdays pot.  They acted like I was eating human flesh.   :P 

  Since, this person has informed at least 3 others of my 'disgusting' habit, and I have heard opinions that range from 'thats gross' to 'that could kill you!'    ::)

  Now, I am the sole coffee drinker aboard Faith.  Rose does not drink it, and Peter only drinks it by mistake.  I normally brew a pot (actually French press) and put it in the thermos.  It works well, and actually keeps coffee warm for 24 hours.  If by some fluke I don't drink it soon enough I just put my cup on the stove for a minute and heat it back up.

  I don't like burnt coffee (like you get at 7/11 in the mid day) and generally prefer to re-warm coffee over letting it cook for long periods of time.

  What about you?

Well, it depends... it if was in a thermos, that is one thing, if it was sitting out in a coffee cup or a open coffee pot, that is another.  I don't mind day old coffee that has been nice and warm in a good thermos, and might just need a bit of re-heating.  The flavor of the coffee isn't changed much since it wasn't heating the whole time... and the potential for stuff other than coffee to be in there is minimal.  Out in an open pot or mug...things are quite different...

I agree with Adrift.  From a thermos, I've got no problem with day old coffee.  I do that all the time, if it lasts that long (I tend to have it in cup for sipping if it is made).  Been known to drink day-old from a Mr. Coffee, but it ain't the best in the world.

One thing I've noticed about coffee drinkers.  Some sure can be snobs.  It seems like you may have hit upon the perfect way to keep your co-workers from mooching off you - just tell 'em it's day-old!!   ;D ;D

Quote from: Captain Smollett on February 06, 2007, 12:27:10 PM....One thing I've noticed about coffee drinkers.  Some sure can be snobs.  It seems like you may have hit upon the perfect way to keep your co-workers from mooching off you - just tell 'em it's day-old!!   ;D ;D

;D

Good point!

  I did notice a big decrease in the 'moochers' when I took the coffee grinder home and started drinking 'Folgers'.....

I drink only instant black coffee (Nescafé). (I am a coffee Heathan - I just want the Caffeine!).

I will drink a mug of coffee that is stone cold or luke warm that has not been finished up to the same day, although usually only up to a couple of hours old........I can have more than 1 mug on the go..........

Hasn't killed me yet.........

I wouldn't offer the mug to anyone else though!

It takes less than 10 min's to make a cup of coffie. Myself, I am a little to hyper with to much coffie. I use this not to drink too much coffie and usuall only make 1 large cup at a time.

I also only drink coffie first thing in the morning or after a good meal.

I enjoy good, strong, black coffee - no cream, no sugar.  I've had day old coffee, but around here it is a rarity as I'll drink a pot before the Mr. Coffee shuts off automatically in two hours.  I agree it is easy enough to make another pot.  On weekends I'll use the French press, and drink it before it cools down too much.

On the boat I use a percolator, and I'm still fine tuning my brewing techniques (how much coffee, how long to let it perc, etc.)  I'd use a French press but haven't picked up a stainless steel one yet, and don't trust myself with the glass one on board.

On our recent SF Bay trip we brewed a pot of coffee before turning in the night before our 0300 departure from the Bay.  We put the coffee in a thermos and enjoyed a couple of cups as we motored through 0400 in San Pablo Bay.

The warning about glass French Presses is a valid one.  I had one break on me last spring.  Not good. 

I prefer the big thermos approach to coffee.  I think it makes more sense to make a fair bit of coffee and then keep it in a big thermos, and relatively warm for a good long while, rather than having to make a cup at a time.  This way, you don't have to fire up the stove if you want more, at least until the thermos is empty, and you can clean up the galley once... instead of over and over again.

Quote from: BobW on February 07, 2007, 01:01:53 AM......I'd use a French press but haven't picked up a stainless steel one yet, and don't trust myself with the glass one on board.

  I had the same concern... I bought this one (Lexan) from REI.(http://images.rei.com/media/773348.jpg) (http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=6377&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&&ext_cat=undefined)

  I have been happy with it.

Quote from: BobW on February 07, 2007, 01:01:53 AM

On the boat I use a percolator, and I'm still fine tuning my brewing techniques (how much coffee, how long to let it perc, etc.)  I'd use a French press but haven't picked up a stainless steel one yet, and don't trust myself with the glass one on board.

Campmor (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=7663&storeId=226&catalogId=40000000226) sells several non-glass presses.  We bought one of the plastic ones.

Has anybody tried one of these -
(http://media.rei.com/media/664265Prd.jpg)

REI item
Big Sky Bistro French Press/Travel Mug
$16.95 Item 664265

Wow, that's about the same price as the Campmor one we bought that makes about 3-4 (though small) cups of coffee.

Interesting idea....press it right your cup.

The only problem I see with that is that the coffee grounds sit in your cup for the whole time it takes you to drink it... I think it'd get awfully strong and bitter doing that.  Other than that, it seems like a good idea.  I think I'll just get one of the ones from Campmor or REI.  :D

Quote from: AdriftAtSea on February 08, 2007, 08:57:56 AM
The only problem I see with that is that the coffee grounds sit in your cup for the whole time it takes you to drink it...

Which often isn't a problem.   ;D  Sometimes the time to drink it is not much longer than time it takes to pour it.   ;)

I've a French Press (~4 cup) that I have used for years when away from shore; when at the dock with shorepower I use a small 4-cup Mr. Coffee electric maker.

I'll drink it several hours old, but usually wind up drinking it all when I make it, so there is rarely any "old" around. :) It's easy to make a new pot, and if I anticipate needing it much later and don't want to have to make fresh, I'll put it in the thermos.

On occasion I may need to make coffee and not have the press or other means (like when backpacking/kayaking), so I have a simpler solution than 'cowboy coffee', where you drink/pour slow from the pot you make it in so as to avoid stirring up the grounds. I made a small, mug-sized bag out of no-see-um mesh netting. Stick that into the coffee mug, add coffee, pour water over it and let steep. After a couple minutes steeping, pull the bag out and all the grounds come with it. It's basically a tough, reusable filter. It's easy to clean by dunking, even easier if you let it dry out - just flip it inside out and shake a little.

I like the "it's a day-old" trick to keep the moochers away. :D

We use a French press for ALL our coffee. When Laura first tried one it was a lexan model from WEST Marine. Makes about 4 small cups and it lives on the boat. Once we got used to it, we bought a stainless steel 8 cup insulated model ( from Amazon!!) and she immediately unplugged the Mr Coffee machine and tossed it into the trash. She swears ( and I concur) that there will NEVER be another kind of coffee made here.

One nice thing about coffee in a press- it doesn't continously get heat, so it doesn't burn. True it cools, but then you can pour a cup and stick it inthe micro wave to reheat. About as good as fresh made.

We also use a Melitta single cup coffee maker- put in a filter ( or a paper towel), a spoon of coffee and pour hot water through. Instant drip coffee. I can tell you for absolute sure- there is NEVER any instant coffee in our house ;D

I like it young, old, cold, hot...but especially do espresso.  Does anyone have a line on some sort of 12 volt espresso maker for on board????

Bob
CP23d

I carry one of the little stainless steel espresso pots... I don't know where you can get them, since mine was Christmas gift about 10 years ago.

The stove top espresso makers are called mocha pots  Bialati is considered one of the better brands.  Bialiti also makes a stove top cappaciano (spelled wrong I know) maker called the Mukka express.  It comes in a cow print paint or polished steel.  You can find these online or at whole foods, trader joes and other specialty type grocers.  Williams and sonoma probably carries them as well.

Now as to the day old coffee debate.  In the army, I was stationed at a remote out post in Korea.  We had 5 people there.  We would make coffee in one of those huge percolators that made coffee for 50 people or so.  We would make a pot about once a week and drink it the whole week.  Pretty disgusting actually.  I'm surprised I still like coffee after drinking 5 day old mud. 

Surprised at the 'coffee' responces. BIG topic!!! When Judy is on...she used a press (they call them a 'french press' at home)...alone and not fussy..I use those coffee 'teabags'...mainly cause I'm lazy 1st thing in the morning. Turn on water,put bag in cup,pour water, add Bailey's (my version of cream/sugar)....done!  ;)

Ongoing research  has proven that it IS possible to get chunks of mold in your coffee after as few as 4 days......
  :P











On edit:  Oh, and before anyone can ask.  They taste a bit like dirt... very earthy. 

ROFLMAO!!!

YUCK!!!

That is just too much information...

I just need to find a decent coffeemaker, PERIOD.  I had one cheap coffeemaker that lasted two weeks, and quit.  Next coffeemaker, lasted three days!  Then I bought a Black and Decker coffeemaker with a stainless steel pot, thinking surely I'd finally bought a better made product.  Two weeks, and it's died!  I'm so T'd off!!!

Get a french press, learn to use it and throw those silly electrics away!!!

end of problem ;)

Quote from: AdriftAtSea on February 09, 2007, 07:32:19 PM
I carry one of the little stainless steel espresso pots... I don't know where you can get them, since mine was Christmas gift about 10 years ago.

CampMor catalog has them.

Amazon.com believe it or not.

Here's a link directly to the french presses and espresso makers.

We have the Bodum Columbia 8 cup one at the house.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/289749?tag2=themusicsource802-20i

We used to make expresso out of those small Italian aluminum pots that you put on the stovetop, but it is just too much caffeine for me now.  I had appendicitis after drinking Turkish coffee in Sarajevo, Yugoslavia once.  The scar looks like a hammer and sickle.

We like Folgers Columbian from a drip filter. I like it because it is cheap and my wife likes it because it tastes good.  We have one of those plastic funnel type things that holds the filter paper, sits on top of the thermos and you pour hot water into it.  I never liked french press coffee, maybe I wasn't doing it right.

We only make enough for breakfast, I can't drink coffee after about 10:00am or I get a tummy ache and get jittery.

Skylark-

You make it sound like the Turkish coffee caused your appendicitis... ;)

Quote from: CharlieJ on February 25, 2007, 05:49:20 PM
Get a french press, learn to use it and throw those silly electrics away!!!

end of problem ;)

Couldn´t agree more.

I am sorry folks, but after working in the coffee business for 15 years, I must confess that this thread makes me seriously considering a silent withdrawal... 

coffee is too old after 15 minutes. Period. Unless in a thermos.

Hey, why not drink tea?? Much less effort involved on preparing   ::) ;D ::) ;D ???

Quote from: maxiSwede on March 01, 2007, 05:28:25 AM

QuoteI am sorry folks, but after working in the coffee business for 15 years, I must confess that this thread makes me seriously considering a silent withdrawal... 

coffee is too old after 15 minutes. Period.....

Please don't go.  I would appreciate your professional opinion on something.....

  Now, keep in mind this is just a shore thing, as I don't have a coffee maker onboard (I use the french press).  But for the office, what if I used one of the pour through filters to strain out the mold chunks?  Do you think I could get past the 4 day thing????  ;D

OOoooh, definetely. Keep Faith in the project. And remember, someoneshas to sacrifice their lives in the interest of empirical science.

;D ;D ;D

Quote from: s/v Faith on March 01, 2007, 10:23:31 AM
But for the office, what if I used one of the pour through filters to strain out the mold chunks?  Do you think I could get past the 4 day thing????  ;D

Faith - you may be brewing in some Penicillin even after the filter.   This could be good in malarial cruising grounds!    :)

Quote from: sailorbum on March 01, 2007, 11:51:31 AM

Quote from: s/v Faith on March 01, 2007, 10:23:31 AM
But for the office, what if I used one of the pour through filters to strain out the mold chunks?  Do you think I could get past the 4 day thing????  ;D

Faith - you may be brewing in some Penicillin even after the filter.   This could be good in malarial cruising grounds!    :)

I doubt it...penicillin is derived from a mold that grows on citrus fruits IIRC, and it isn't all that effective on Malaria.   ;)

QuoteI am sorry folks, but after working in the coffee business for 15 years, I must confess that this thread makes me seriously considering a silent withdrawal.

I am expecting cofeebean to run away screaming if he discovers this thread. LOL.

So do you Swedes take your coffee as serious as the Italians do?

Have you never tasted Swedish coffee? It is the best! But so is Italian :D
They're both the best  ;D  Just different.

~OK

Oh, Thank you guys - blushing -   ::)

and, as I believe it goes around here;  Grog to ya all!


BTW , sailing 59 degrees north, we better have some decent coffee to survive.  ;)

Or if I am to put it another way, I am not going to make a pareo for my better half, it won´t be used much...   8)

My last cruse I tried MSR MugMate Coffee/Tea Filter
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002BB0E2.01-A3HKHM674SJUI8._SCLZZZZZZZ_V23888108_AA280_.jpg)

I had a hot cup of coffie. It did leave a little gounds in the bottom of the cup. You just pour hot water through the filter with grounds in it and let it steep. A real nice hot cup of coffie.

I am thinking about using one of these things, a tea infusion spoon, for brewing coffee in a cup.  I have not tried it yet with coffee, only with tea.  It works great with tea.

(http://www.thebritishshoppe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/tea_infuser_snapmesh_teaspoon.jpg)

Skylark-

If you're going to use that, get the coffee ground fairly coarse, or you'll have lots of it filtering through and making the bottom of your cup of coffee more like mud.

Norm and I had INSTANT coffee on the trip north with Averisera. Oh my god. How gross is that!

I thought the French presses worked well. We only have glass ones at home. I didn't know they made them in Lexan. I'm going to look at those for the boat. We also need a nice thermos. Does anyone have a recommendation on a good non-glass insulated thermos?

Mostly we have tea, which really burns through the alcohol fuel. Has anybody any opinions on brewing pots of tea and keeping that warm? Maybe you would just boil the water and keep that in a thermos. I haven't thought this problem through as you can see.

-elizabeth

These unique containers are designed to extract the maximum amount of heat from any fuel. While these containers are expensive, if they work as advertised they would save a lot of fuel and time.

http://www.garrettwade.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=106256&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=12375&iSubCat=12381&iProductID=106256

Nissan and Zozurushi both make excellent stainless steel vacuum containers.  You can see some at this link. LINK (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_3/103-9128397-4854242?ie=UTF8&keywords=stainless%20steel%20vacuum%20&rh=n%3A1055398%2Ck%3Astainless%20steel%20vacuum%20&page=3)

Elizabeth -

I can second the all-stainless Nissan recommendation. You can get an easy 8-10 hours of hot beverage using them. I also have a cheaper all-stainless version from WalMart, but haven't done any comparisons, though I would expect them to be about the same in performance.

Oded - Those Kettles look intriguing. I d/l'ed the instructional PDF, and all it basically said was "Don't have the cork in while heating water." lol :) It is interesting to see similarities between these Kettles, and my small gimballed stove (a Forespar IIRC), which heats small amounts of food/beverage very quickly.

I had originally bought one of the whistling tea pots. I did not like it and wanted something else. I found Cabela's Stainless Steel Cool Touch Coffee Pots. I have been using it every day for 7 months. Great product.
Cabela's Stainless Steel Cool Touch Coffee Pots (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat20114&id=0006331517720a&navCount=2&podId=0006331&parentId=cat20114&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20114&hasJS=true)
I bought the 6 cup but should have bought the 9. The handle does not get hot unless you leave it on the stove over the burner. I do not use it for coffee but to boil water as I like tea and other hot drinks.

Coffee maker - MSR MugMate Coffee/Tea Filter - I have been using this 2 times a day for 7 months and still works like new. Gives me a hot cup of coffee every time and FRESH. Just add to my cup what I want. Put in the filter, add the coffee grounds, pour hot water over, remove right away and a hot and good cup of coffee. I have a wide cup and would like the ears to be wider.
http://www.rei.com/product/726094

I just use a french press that I bought at a camping store.
It makes good coffee, is easy to clean, and stores easily.

A french press is most definitely the ticket. We use one at home also. When Laura got it and made the first pot of coffee, she unplugged the Mr Coffee, and hauled it to the garbage can.

We use individual cup french presses on the boat- makes a double cup each time. Stays nice and hot that way ;D

I have a peculator that I use on the boat, this can be very fuel consuming (alcohol) but it sure makes a good cup of coffee. I also have a French press that I got at Worst Marine works great so far.

I've found in the last two weeks that the press works great for cold-brew as well.

As Kurt noted earlier, coffee sure tastes 'different' by this method.  It took me a few cups to realize that it's BETTER (ie, less bitter).

Definitely worth a try ...

LOL, interesting thread.  I have three coffee makers and a grinder aboard.  Two stove top latte-cappuccino-espresso makers/steamers and a French press like Faith's.  I also have about six different kinds of coffee and installed a water purification system so I have good water for making coffee.  Coffee, along with rum, is one of life's great pleasures.  Here's my latest coffee acquisition.

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/pyrat/Sailing/Galley/BialettiMukkaExpresVetro.jpg)

Quote from: Captain Smollett on February 02, 2009, 11:56:34 PM
I've found in the last two weeks that the press works great for cold-brew as well.

As Kurt noted earlier, coffee sure tastes 'different' by this method.  It took me a few cups to realize that it's BETTER (ie, less bitter).

Definitely worth a try ...

I had never heard of cold brewing until I read this thread the other day. So I did some quick research and it sounded interesting. I tried it for the first time today, and I am officially hooked :)

I had to get creative to filter it, so now I am looking into the french presses and that mugmate filter looks pretty promising...
I also found these vietnamese single cup cold brew filter mugs (http://www.trung-nguyen-online.com/about-vietnamese-coffee-filter.php)

Oh what fun :) I prefer hot liquids in the mornings, but for coffee any other time, I'm gonna be cold brewing from now on, its wonderful! thanks!

[edit] Here is the "recipe" (http://www.ineedcoffee.com/06/cold-brewed/) I used, pretty simple, I like the idea of making it concentrated, then just adding water to taste, it turned out perfect.

Quote from: s/v Faith on February 07, 2007, 08:38:04 AM

Quote from: BobW on February 07, 2007, 01:01:53 AM......I'd use a French press but haven't picked up a stainless steel one yet, and don't trust myself with the glass one on board.

  I had the same concern... I bought this one (Lexan) from REI.(http://images.rei.com/media/773348.jpg) (http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=6377&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&&ext_cat=undefined)

  I have been happy with it.

Thats what I have! I bought it at REI or Campmoor.
I am very happy with it.

We had a Lexan one like that. Worked really well for about two and a half years- then the bottom cracked and it began leaking all over.

Just watch it, so it doesn't make a mess for you ;D

Has anyone ever used one of these or anything similar? If so how well does it work? Just trying to keep AH as low as possible and  also stay uncluttered in a small cabin & espresso is defiantly a luxury I need.

Something like this

http://www.buzzmug.com/coffee/product-reviews/espresso-outside-the-gsi-outdoors-espresso-maker/comment-page-1/

Joe Pyrat does;

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/pyrat/Sailing/Galley/BialettiMukkaExpresVetro.jpg)

;D

Espresso would be nice, does anyone else use one?  Is it worth the effort?  How hard is it to keep clean?

;)

  How does it taste 3 days later....  :P

I started with that exact espresso maker. Unfortunately, it has an overload valve that is a single-use type, and yes I tend to tamp my coffee charge. Supposedly the valves are replaceable, but I too went with a Bernoulli (sp?) stovetop espresso like Joe Pyrat's. Mine isn't the cadillac version like his, but it makes a mighty fine espresso of a morning, even on the alcohol stove.

The problem is actually heating/frothing the milk for a latté. So far I've been heating the milk first in a saucepan, or just pouring it cold (depending how bleary I am of the morning.) Or having it Americano-style after heating water for my partner's morning tea before making my espresso.

Of course, whingeing about my espresso drink while anchored a bazillion miles from everywhere in a deserted anchorage while watching the sun rise behind the mountains is the best way to drink it.

We're mostly tea drinkers, and we heat our water with a Forespar swing-stove, which heats it rapidly. Creme Brulee's swing stove uses the old-style butane/propane canisters with no valve on top. You can still find them at REI, but they're getting scarce--and you should treat them with the same respect you'd treat a live hand grenade.

Like Dan, we use a Nissan stainless-steel thermos. In fact, even before the morning brew, we boil enough water to fill a stainless thermos. This gives us hot water for washing all day long--and is usually warm the next morning, too.

--Joe

I suppose sheepherder coffee is out of the question.  You know add a scoop of coffee to the old grounds, fill the can with water, boil it, drink it, and repeat until no more grounds fit into the can.  A friend of mine used to do that at a camp.  One time, the group was around the campfire making coffee, and when filling the cups a mouse came tumbling out.  Probably easier to strain than mold  ;D

We have a French Press (glass) that has been with us through three boats... Bought in 82 when we were building Loose Moose 1 it sailed to Finland and down to Spain across the Bay of Biscay...Aboard Loose Moose 2 it spent a year on the European canals did a circumnavigation of the Med, Spent a year exploring the coast of Africa and crossed to the Caribbean where we lost Loose Moose 2 but the French press survived...Its been making coffee since on So It Goes!

Anyway the point is don't get too hung up on unbreakable and plastic...

Bob
http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/
http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/

We also use a French press-a stainless steel one bought at Starbucks. Laura loves it. Makes 4 cups

hey folks,

sorry to dredge up an old topic, but I've read through with interest, and had a question...

I currently use a stainless steel Bialetti moka pot on a Coleman camp stove on my boat - I have a nice big Sigmar diesel stove, but frankly it takes a half-hour or more to get up to cooking heat in the morning and I just can't wait that long for my coffee. :)

My one complaint about making coffee onboard has nothing to do with the maker, but rather with the grinds - I find myself having to resort to pre-ground coffee from the grocery store.  I've got no grinder, and while I guess I *could* fire up the generator and get my grinder out of storage, that thought is distasteful to me.

Has anyone found a decent manually-operated (ie crank) burr grinder?

This one looks ok: http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.hario_skerton.php - but I'd rather it not have the glass part, I'm kind of a klutz. :)

I miss good coffee.  When I lived on land, I had a little home roaster machine, a beautiful italian grinder and an excellent drip machine.  Now I'm drinking the grocery store brand. :(

I sympathize. I was looking at a number of 12 volt coffee makers, thinking that there's a limit to roughing it at my age, but most of them come in at a 13 amp power draw. Ouch.
Amazon has a handful of stainless steel hand grinders listed... I haven't settled on a solution for myself yet, but several of the grinders out there seem to be "chef quality".

Take a look at our 2 year gear report on our web site under our "Position Reports" topic. We tried a number of different ways to get what we consider "GOOD" coffee. NONE came up to the ease of use and quality of what we get from our current cups and pot!!

And I am here to say Jill LOVES good coffee!

Greg

(http://www.svguenevere.com/2006/gear/coffee1.jpg)

French Press is definitely the way to go.
The beans don't have to be ground as fine either.

Though I have no personal experience with this grinder

(http://www.riverconnection.com/image/coffee_grinder_350.jpg)

it is available at backpacking kind of places like here;

http://www.riverconnection.com/lexan-java-grind-hand-crank-coffee-grinder-p-468.html

I've posted this before but-

When Laura who is a coffee hound first tried a French press, she pitched the electric Mr Coffee in the garbage can.

After several different presses, we now use a stainless one (from Starbucks of all places-can't stand their coffee) which makes four nice cups. Since we have no beans or grinder we just use Folger's but that works for us .

As for hand grinders- google 'Lehman's) or some spelling closes to that- they specialize in non electric stuff.

Due to the high mineral content of the local water(17grains hardness) To keep coffee makers working it is necessary to flush with vineger on a regular basis.I got tired of buying 2 coffee makers a year and came up with a variation Of "Maine Guide" coffee. I bring water to a boil in a small pot, remove from heat add coffee stir a few times run thru a resuable filter(similar to previous post) held by a hand held screen. Some sediment goes thru, i dont drink the last 1/4" in the cup. If camping try Maine Guide coffee. Heat water, add
raw egg to coffee,dump in water,stir, after brewing thro in a few ice cubes (if you have them) grounds go to bottom of pot. Pour carefully untill you get to grounds on bottom. Grounds will settle without ice--takes longer. I roast green beans on the stove top, I need a better grinder-use a blade type and the coffee grind is not uniform. Green beans last for years, once roasted the quality drops off with age.

Another SIMPLE idea is one we see used in Mexico all the time. It's a reusable cloth bag made for making coffee. SIMPLE IS GOOD!

You should be able to order them from places on the web.

Greg

(http://www.cubanfoodmarket.com/mm5/graphics/00000002/col40401l.jpg)

Here's yet another way to brew, using a 32oz Nalgene bottle - My brother gifted this to me at Christmas, but I haven't tried it yet. It does look like it will work well, I'll let you know after camping next weekend. :)

The GSI H2jO! Coffee Filter (http://www.rei.com/product/750397?preferredSku=7503970019&cm_mmc=cse_froogle-_-datafeed-_-product-_-7503970019&mr:trackingCode=938C071B-81F9-DE11-BAE3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA) insert- it screws into the top of a normal Nalgene bottle, and is a stainless steel 'cage' filte, so to speak. You can put grounds either 1) into the bottle, and then this thing then strains them when you pour, or 2) put grounds into this filter, cap the bottle, and let them steep for a bit, remove filter w/grounds, and then pour your joe.

He also added a SplashGuard (http://www.guyotdesigns.com/Product-Splashguards) and an insulated Built (http://www.rei.com/product/738550) neoprene cover for the Nalgene bottle. It's the Super Duper Deluxe Nalgene setup, lol.

The Splashguard-making company has some interesting products, worth looking at with a small boat galley in mind.

Looking at the Nalgene insert, something crossed my mind...
I've seen and used the "sun tea" routine... has anyone tried anything like that for coffee?
Just curious. It would be a pain trying that while backpacking, but since a boat is camping while dragging the campground along with you, it might just work.

I have heard of people who make a concentrate  :o by putting a lot of grounds into cold water and letting them soak over night. Then making the mooring ?Joe? by adding some of the concentrate to hot water.

Have not tried it myself, but it sounded like an idea, as long as the anchorage was calm. ;D

Greg

Tom and Greg - Cold Brewed coffee - yep, have done that myself, works great for summertime, since you only use fuel / create heat long enough to warm your joe to taste, not bring it up to boil. There is some discussion about it here - far back in this thread, IIRC...

http://sailfar.net/forum/index.php?topic=1411.0   <- there :)

I knew I heard it from some one reliable! ;D  And worth listening to.

Greg

Quote from: CapnK on January 21, 2010, 11:17:47 AM
Tom and Greg - Cold Brewed coffee - yep, have done that myself, works great for summertime, since you only use fuel / create heat long enough to warm your joe to taste, not bring it up to boil. There is some discussion about it here - far back in this thread, IIRC...

http://sailfar.net/forum/index.php?topic=1411.0   <- there :)

There is people eating out of a can to save fuel too.... That is everybody choice, but please in this case drink this if you want but do not call it coffee.

Quote from: Manannan on January 23, 2010, 07:14:04 AM


There is people eating out of a can to save fuel too.... That is everybody choice, but please in this case drink this if you want but do not call it coffee.

I've had coffee this way and it is quite tasty.  You get the full flavor of the coffee without the bitterness.

Heat KILLS coffee flavor.  The cold-brew method exposes the coffee to as little heat as possible (just enough to warm it at drink-time).

If your coffee is bitter to start with, it is a bad coffee no matter how you brew it. I have lived long enough in the States to know that I was not impressed with the coffee. But I won't argue on the subject. I know how I want my coffee and it is definetely not cold brewed.
The heat does not kill coffee flavor,Though  it is right that the water should be just below boiling temperature.
It all depends in fact if you really love coffee, if you don't fancy it that much,  instant coffee can do too, even in cold water, just have to pinch your nose, and swallow it at once  ;)

Quote from: Manannan on January 23, 2010, 08:43:26 AM

I know how I want my coffee and it is definetely not cold brewed.

Fair enough.  Just out of curiosity, have you tried cold brewed coffee?

The coffees we drink come from all over the world.  It's not a "States" issue at all.

To each his own, and there's no accounting for 'taste.'  Even in coffee.   ;D

Yes I did, and also cold brewed tea. For the coffee in the States, I agree, it is the way it is roasted, and I know also that taste differ from country to country, some like it with more Robusta, some Arabica only. But I do not think we are on a coffee afficionados forum., but just to show that we can live without the electric coffee maker and still make good coffee to anyone taste  :)

CapnK, thanks for the link... great thread, and the link to the chowhound discussion was informative too.
That's something to consider. I'm big on being an energy miser when it comes to trying to conserve fuel sources and amps, so if there's a way to get this down pat (like start making tomorrow's coffee while heating up this morning's coffee) into a routine, I would like to make that work.
Because as much as I like it, Kona coffee is kind of expensive as a routine.

Kona does nothing for me...all price and no delivery IMO...but what do I know; cold baked beans out of a can? Yummy. (When I shake the inverted can to drop the last solitary bean into the abyss I hold my pinkie extended to compensate for my gaucherie)

We tried the fancy french presses, tried drip and other methods.  What works best for us, is to boil water for 3 cups of coffee, put 1/1/2 spoons full of coffee directly into water, give it a chance to absorb, stir it let it set for 5-10 minutes, use a screen filter and pour directly into cup! walla!!

Quote from: SV Wind Dancer on January 23, 2010, 05:27:23 PM
Kona does nothing for me...all price and no delivery IMO...but what do I know; cold baked beans out of a can? Yummy. (When I shake the inverted can to drop the last solitary bean into the abyss I hold my pinkie extended to compensate for my gaucherie)

Good man.  :)  Here is a spot of grog to wash it down with...

I wish I could be a discriminating coffee lover.  But, being an ancient curmudgeon living alone on my boat, I need it to wake up and/or get functional, in a form that will not peel my teeth.  So, I heat water, add instant, and drink.  :D  If it's too hot aboard to want to boil water, add instant cabin temp coffee to water, shake, and drink.  :-\
It will never win a prize, but it works.

Quote from: Shipscarver on March 02, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
I wish I could be a discriminating coffee lover.  But, being an ancient curmudgeon living alone on my boat, I need it to wake up and/or get functional, in a form that will not peel my teeth.  So, I heat water, add instant, and drink.  :D  If it's too hot aboard to want to boil water, add instant cabin temp coffee to water, shake, and drink.  :-\
It will never win a prize, but it works.

I had a roomate in college who has you beat -- he poured a little water into the bottle of instant coffee, stirred it around, and then ate it with a spoon!

Quote from: wildman on March 02, 2010, 10:52:01 PM

Quote from: Shipscarver on March 02, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
I wish I could be a discriminating coffee lover.  But, being an ancient curmudgeon living alone on my boat, I need it to wake up and/or get functional, in a form that will not peel my teeth.  So, I heat water, add instant, and drink.  :D  If it's too hot aboard to want to boil water, add instant cabin temp coffee to water, shake, and drink.  :-\
It will never win a prize, but it works.

I had a roomate in college who has you beat -- he poured a little water into the bottle of instant coffee, stirred it around, and then ate it with a spoon!

OK Now I have to admit,......there was a time,....when I was both working AND being socially active,.....I would just grab a few unground beans on my way out the door ::)

Were they MOLDY beans?  Humm....?

  You need to go back to the start of this thread.

Lets talk after that.

Oh they were always fresh. I picked up the habit working long night janitorial jobs when we did the floors on an Ice cream/coffee place.

Nowadays I am MUCH more civilized, a Krups machine at home and a SS French Press on the road or seas.

Part of this thread had been bothering me for some time now... the issue being that I never seem to have any "old" coffee, no matter how big a pot I make. Then I caught myself yesterday morning when I was making my oatmeal... it seems I am in the habit of absentmindedly pouring the remains of the coffee pot into the oatmeal mix as I get ready to cook it.
So there you have it, a coffee addict of Scottish ancestry shares his darkest secrets! No falling asleep over my oatmeal!

Coffee on oatmeal is not bad...pretty good.  When backpacking, you learn such tricks to lower weight/save time.


Coffee with green, fuzzy stuff floating on it from several days of heat-cold cycling?  That's another kettle of fish...


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Coffee on oatmeal?  I remember (fuzzily) beer on cheerios in college, but didn't try coffee on oatmeal  ;D

Sorry Capn, but both of those sound pretty nasty...

Quote from: Captain Smollett on March 09, 2010, 11:38:01 PM
Coffee on oatmeal is not bad...pretty good.  When backpacking, you learn such tricks to lower weight/save time.


Coffee with green, fuzzy stuff floating on it from several days of heat-cold cycling?  That's another kettle of fish...


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Coupla coffee links @Lifehacker today:

Drink Darker Coffee for a Happier Stomach (http://lifehacker.com/5499258/drink-darker-coffee-for-a-happier-stomach) - works for me!

and

Three Cups of Coffee a Day Good for Your Brain (http://lifehacker.com/5499171/three-cups-of-coffee-a-day-good-for-your-brain) - this is pretty much for women only, durn it. :)

And here's one from a week or so ago that might come in handy to know in some far-flung, foreign port where you can only get green coffee beans:

Roast Coffee With A Drill and A Soup Can (http://lifehacker.com/5494207/roast-coffee-with-a-drill-and-a-soup-can)

;D

ok guys. youre making this coffee stuff way too complicated. years (decades) ago i lived in a rural town in southern utah. a friend of mine owned a dairy farm and had a few hundred head of range cattle up in the hills. anyway, he asked me if i wanted to go on a roundup, and since i had never been on one i said heck yeah. spent the next 5 days on horseback rounding up cattle, solving the worlds problems and drinking entirely too much whiskey. for coffee the cook put on a huge pot of water, threw in some coffee and an egg shell and boiled it till it was done. if you got a few grounds in your cup, oh well. think the stuff would peel paint, but it would get my hungover butt back on my horse. anyway, we actually did get the cattle rounded up and a great time was had by all. miss those days sometimes. regards, j.d.

Really good if you have a handful of snow to throw in the pan after you take it off the fire, settles the sediment...finest thing on a cold mountain is that early AM pan of coffee.  But a cuppa generic drip on the deck of WD watching the sunrise is not to be despised...

And for those with an e-reader, there is always "All About Coffee" by William H. Ukers, published in 1922.
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/28500
Oh yes, it's free.

Wow,

  The last time I priced stainless percolators, I found them to be quite spendy.

Look at this thing from Faberware... (http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-50124-Yosemite-Stainless-Percolator/dp/B00005NCWQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1324481864&sr=1-5).

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XR1IEnWEL._AA300_.jpg)

What is amazing is that it is less then $20!

I have one of those on the boat, it is a good piece of equipment.

I french press....bring water just to a boil and steep for 5 mins.

first mate doesnt drink coffee so I use a 20 oz thermal stainless press

http://www.planetarydesign.us/products.html?paction=deskpress

it doubles as a travel mug for when we get underway early, I just press and drink from the press.

8)

Quote from: Captain Smollett on March 09, 2010, 11:38:01 PM

Coffee with green, fuzzy stuff floating on it from several days of heat-cold cycling?  That's another kettle of fish...


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, that's been my cutoff point, too.  But then again, I've never had to decide between scraping off green furry islands or having no coffee, which might just lower the bar... 
I think penicillin came from such things as grow on the top of "aged" coffee.  Dial up that immune system!

I just spent 2 weeks drinking instant coffee poured into water from the tanks... not even heated.  The boat I was on had a gimbaled stove but no handholds in the galley...  :o

A little mold would have been ok... instant coffee in oily water that was not even warm was a new low even for me.

Quote from: s/v Faith on April 07, 2012, 11:00:14 PM
I just spent 2 weeks drinking instant coffee poured into water from the tanks... not even heated.  The boat I was on had a gimbaled stove but no handholds in the galley...  :o

A little mold would have been ok... instant coffee in oily water that was not even warm was a new low even for me.

Instant coffee in cold oily water has set the bar "so low you can't get under it."  Congratulations, you have won the "Dedicated to coffee drinking, no matter what" prize!   This highly valued honor comes with a $3 coupon to Starbucks....

Quote from: s/v Emerald Tide on April 09, 2012, 01:03:55 PM

Quote from: s/v Faith on April 07, 2012, 11:00:14 PM
I just spent 2 weeks drinking instant coffee poured into water from the tanks... not even heated.  The boat I was on had a gimbaled stove but no handholds in the galley...  :o

A little mold would have been ok... instant coffee in oily water that was not even warm was a new low even for me.

Instant coffee in cold oily water has set the bar "so low you can't get under it."  Congratulations, you have won the "Dedicated to coffee drinking, no matter what" prize!   This highly valued honor comes with a $3 coupon to Starbucks....

ROFL- Too bad Starbucks doesn't sell coffee. Only doctored up "stuff". The just plain coffee SUCKS!!

You might want to consider making a cold brewed coffee concentrate.

This method of brewing coffee in cold water for 24 hours makes a concentrate that you can dilute with hot water, cold water & ice for ice coffee, or milk for a cheap latte.

An added benefit is that this coffee is naturally low in acid and therefore easy on the stomach.

instruction here:

http://www.americastestkitchenfeed.com/do-it-yourself/2011/08/how-to-make-cold-brew-coffee/

Oded

I only drink tea, (british).

Quote from: s/v Faith on April 07, 2012, 11:00:14 PM
I just spent 2 weeks drinking instant coffee poured into water from the tanks... not even heated.  The boat I was on had a gimbaled stove but no handholds in the galley...  :o

A little mold would have been ok... instant coffee in oily water that was not even warm was a new low even for me.

I think i would pop a 5 hour energy and be done with it. You are one dedicated coffee drinker. ???

Quote from: oded kishony on April 10, 2012, 09:17:44 AM
You might want to consider making a cold brewed coffee concentrate.

This method of brewing coffee in cold water for 24 hours makes a concentrate that you can dilute with hot wate

This I have done, and with a little foresite, it does work well. Take some practice to get it right.

But I still prefer brewing mine just before I drink it.

Anybody using a Kureg aboard?  I know, resistive load is tough...  Sure would be nice though!

Actual power use?

Humm.....  :P

the best

It's hard to beat an old drip pot.

Amazon comes through again.

I really like the good old percolator too.  Makes a good strong cup 'o Joe.

I have had the aluminum ones for years, but always lusted over the stainless ones I saw on other boats.  I priced them, and they were over $100 not too long ago.  Last year I priced them again and found this on amazon.


Touch the image to zoom in
     
Farberware Classic Stainless Steel Yosemite 8-Cup Coffee Percolator (http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Classic-Stainless-Yosemite-Percolator/dp/B00005NCWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386957794&sr=8-1&keywords=stainless+coffee+percolator)


Well, I have tested it for over a year now and it is great. It was $39 when I bought it and I thought that was an amazing deal....
Now it lists for $22!  Wow.