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Title: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 05, 2008, 09:16:43 PM
This a is the post I made on TSBB that got the request for the table posting. So here's the original.

For a long time we've put up with a problem in Tehani. When we rebuilt her we just painted the bulkhead between the fore cabin and the main cabin.

That bulkhead looked like this

(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1217816130.jpg)

The problem was the tendency for us to put our hands down on the top edge when getting into and out of the Vee berth, and when coming out of the fore cabin. The oil from the hands was softening the paint and making it look black and quite ugly. Laura has repainted the top edges several times and has generally been unhappy with it. She's been wanting me to make some trim to go there, so I finally found time to do it.

I traced the curves of the top edges- BOTH sides because they turned out to NOT be duplicates. I cut molds to the shape of those curves and laminated some ash trim to fit there. Sorry- no pics of the construction.

Once the two trim pieces were made I marked the bulkheads and using a coping saw, hand saw, rasp and chisel, cut out the bulkheads to match the new trim.

(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1217816488.jpg)

I then rough screwed the new trim in place and epoxied under it with plastic tape on the back edge so the trim wouldn't stick. The bulkhead is 3/4 thick with glass on both sides and some of the glass had pulled loose. So I clamped that in place at the same time.

(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1217816669.jpg)
Once that cured I final screwed the trim , plugged the screw holes and sanded everything to shape to match the existing bulkhead. It had been roughly shaped in the shop, but not til installed could I make it match exactly.

(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1217816777.jpg)

Once all the shaping was completed I turned the job over to Laura for her paint and varnish skills ( she won't let me in the boat with a paint brush) ;D

(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1217816873.jpg)

And here's an overall shot of the finished trim . We're really hopeful it will hold up better than the paint, or at least not look as ugly if it doesn't.

(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1217816983.jpg)
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: polecat on August 05, 2008, 10:33:27 PM
CJ - Please tell Laura "another masterful job making Charlies work look good" ......
not to bad yourself. 
jim
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: Shipscarver on August 07, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Well done, CharlieJ !  :)
Did you use steam to bend the ash? It finished up beautifully.
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 07, 2008, 08:13:58 PM
No steam- I cut the strips to about 1/16th inch thick and soaked them in water. Bent them, clamped it up and let them dry, then took it apart and glued using epoxy. Ash takes bends very well and we love the way it finishes, which is why we used it on the interior of our last two boats.

I hate the dark wood finishes on interiors, particularly when the bulkheads are varnished also- makes me feel like I'm in a cave when it's rainy out. The light paint with bright trim is a Herreshoff thing and I like it. Pretty traditional too. I've done that on the interiors of all the boats I've built for customers and they like it also.
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: polecat on August 07, 2008, 09:50:01 PM
Charliej - I was particularly taken with the light ash on the inside of the hull.  Would you share a few secrets as to how this was done?  Thickness, how is it attached, do you also wet it and hold it in position while it dries then finish it? 
Jim
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 07, 2008, 10:39:59 PM
Are you referring to the ceilings? I'm gonna assume that's what you mean.

That's ash that's been resawn into strips. We started with 3/4 ash and split that in two, then planed it smooth. Resulting strips are just under 3/8 thick. Rounded the edges with a router set up on a table, then laid it all out and varnished the whole thing, outside the boat.

Against the hull there are strips of plywood epoxied on, kerfed on the back to take the bend. Between those are fitted foam insulation. Then the strips were cut to length and screwed to the backing strips.

I sat out in the cockpit while Laura measured. I'd cut to length ( there's an angle on each end by the way) and hand each strip back in. Then she'd screw it down. All bronze screws. Then we screwed trim strips over each end.

I should point out that she installed all the wood inside ( except for the sole), sewed the cushions and pained the interior. I was working on a customer boat at the time
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 07, 2008, 10:45:56 PM
A few shots of the setup and cutting-

Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: Tim on August 07, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
Here is Mariah's ceiling similarly done but with a different look.

(http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=3511&stc=1&d=1154016142)

Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 07, 2008, 10:52:18 PM
Kewl- really adds to the looks of the boat doesn't it? Covers all that fiberglass and nothing to paint. Actually we've been very happy with it with the foam behind. We note no condensation on the hull sides.

The cabin top is a whole 'nother story >:(
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 07, 2008, 10:54:43 PM
While I'm showing off Laura's work, I'll show you this too. She also did all the brightwork on the OUTSIDE of the boat and reinstalled it all too.

That's all original wood- 45 years old at the time ;D It's older than she is!!

Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: Tim on August 07, 2008, 10:59:05 PM
Yes the insulation makes a big difference, along with the solar vent I have had zero condensation problems.

And I am working on the brightwork soon. It is all off and ready to go, but other chores have got in the way  ;)
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: polecat on August 07, 2008, 11:21:56 PM
Just beautiful - If my brightwork were to ever look that nice - I'd have to take it off & take it home every night.  Now I need to start looking for a planer
thanks - Inspiring
jim
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 07, 2008, 11:50:39 PM
Thanks . Laura has made sunbrella covers for the hand rails . We keep them on the boat while she sits in the slip.

Hey- Thornton isn't THAT far away from us-under 200 miles. If you ever get down this way look us up.

We used to do  a blackpowder thing in Mexia years ago.
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: Tim on August 08, 2008, 12:22:44 AM
Yeh! and I'm only 2014 miles from ya!  ;) Darn I would like some hot weather sailing :)
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: AdriftAtSea on August 08, 2008, 12:30:52 AM
Charlie-

As I've said before, you're a lucky man...and Laura is better than you deserve. :) :)
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: Shipscarver on August 08, 2008, 10:36:12 PM
You must look strange towing a dink with a planer, band saw, bench saw, saw horses, tool boxes, tarps, and a shop vac.  ;D  :D  ;D
Really great work! I do like that ash interior.
What did you use for insulation?
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 08, 2008, 10:58:26 PM
 ;D

well- I don't tow all that but when I lived aboard and cruised before I DID carry a small selection of woodworking hand  tools. Made some bucks stopping to work in various boatyards along the east coast.

The insulation is foil both sides urethane foam, from the lumber yard.

;D ;D ;D
Oh and by the way- Adriftatsea- just how do you KNOW I don't deserve her???

It might well be the truth, but how do YOU know that? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: AdriftAtSea on August 10, 2008, 10:39:55 PM
Charlie-

Just a guess...playing the odds..:) 
Title: Re: Tehani gets some new trim
Post by: CharlieJ on August 11, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
 ;D ;D ;D