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Title: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: lastgreatgeneration on April 12, 2019, 03:13:59 PM
I'm having a hard time finding out if this is legal or not. Boat is in Herrington Harbour deale mast is going to my yard in Annapolis. I would like to transport this to my yard to work on. What's the best, legal way to get it here? I'm going to make some measurements and do some more searching. Anyone have any better way than sticking it on top of my Prius?

Thanks,
Dan
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: Norman on April 12, 2019, 05:41:37 PM
Dan, I have a pickup and a 22 foot trailer.  With a bit of imagination, some 2X4 s, and a lot of ratchet straps and bungees, I think we can do it.  I have the straps and bungees, and some scrap lumber, but think we will need a couple of 2 x 4 s longer than I have.

With 24 to 26 feet over the trailer, and 10 to 12 over the truck, and careful driving through turns, all should work well.  That will only extend the mast 2 to 4 feet past the license tag, so will just barely need a red flag on the back end.

You will need to have a strong friend to help lift it into place, as it will require a lifter at each end, and me to adjust the support on the truck.  I am no longer a strong lifter.

Have you removed the spreaders and stays?  If not, the rigging will be a little harder, but can be done.

Send a personal message with your phone number, and we can discuss the details.

Norman
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: lastgreatgeneration on April 13, 2019, 08:13:21 AM
Thanks Norman!
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: Crazer on April 14, 2019, 08:44:56 AM
If you need an extra hand, I have my CD28 at Herrington (up on the hard in S row) as well and could come down to help out.
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: lastgreatgeneration on April 15, 2019, 07:01:16 AM
Avery,
Thanks for the offer. I would like to see what modifications you have on your Cape Dory. I have to go down in the next few weeks to raise the waterline, and barrier coat.
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: lastgreatgeneration on April 22, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
I think I'm going to hold off unstepping the mast for now. The yard wants $2,000 in and out. That's ridiculously expensive. I'll have to find some other way to unstep the mast myself. 
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: Captain Smollett on April 22, 2019, 09:56:40 AM
Quote from: lastgreatgeneration on April 22, 2019, 09:16:16 AM

I think I'm going to hold off unstepping the mast for now. The yard wants 2ak in and out. That's ridiculously expensive. I'll have to find some other way to unstep the mast myself.


Not sure I am interpreting this correctly.

Are you saying the yard wants $2000 to unstep then restep the mast?  That's pure nuts.  The yards here charge about $75-$100 each way.

If that was supposed to be $200, I'd say that competitive.

If that's $2000 for pulling and relaunching the boat, that still seems mighty steep.

Either way, the experience gained doing it yourself could prove useful in the long term.  There are several methods that work well.  Check out the alberg30.org site for ideas about how those guys go about it.

Alberg 30 Mast Unsetpping (http://alberg30.org/maintenance/SparsSailsRigging/UnsteppingMast/)

That's just one way.  I believe our own KR has done something similar with a ladder.


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Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: Norman on April 22, 2019, 08:42:41 PM
Let me know when you decide what is next.

I will be gone the next week sailing the ICW along the coast of Georgia.  Hoping for light winds and little rain, which is forecast.  We are in the lower end of the Sailfar range, at 18 1/2 feet, a Hunter with wing keel, so 150 miles is 'Far'.

Norman
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: lastgreatgeneration on April 23, 2019, 09:06:24 AM
Quote from: Captain Smollett on April 22, 2019, 09:56:40 AM
Quote from: lastgreatgeneration on April 22, 2019, 09:16:16 AM

I think I'm going to hold off unstepping the mast for now. The yard wants 2ak in and out. That's ridiculously expensive. I'll have to find some other way to unstep the mast myself.


Not sure I am interpreting this correctly.

Are you saying the yard wants $2000 to unstep then restep the mast?  That's pure nuts.  The yards here charge about $75-$100 each way.

If that was supposed to be $200, I'd say that competitive.

Haul/Launch, storage fees not included

If that's $2000 for pulling and relaunching the boat, that still seems mighty steep.

Either way, the experience gained doing it yourself could prove useful in the long term.  There are several methods that work well.  Check out the alberg30.org site for ideas about how those guys go about it. A30 mast is about 42 ft.

Alberg 30 Mast Unsetpping (http://alberg30.org/maintenance/SparsSailsRigging/UnsteppingMast/)

That's just one way.  I believe our own KR has done something similar with a ladder.

Let me clarify.

Crane operation not included in quote. $200/hr min 1 hour X2
$25 per month mast storage (not included)
Haul/launch and yard fees also not included.

It is pure nuts! I need to find a friend with a bigger boat or the same size then lower it down with the halyard then lay it on a cradle on deck.. I would be willing to pay them well for their time. You think for how much they charge they should be able to pay their employees more. Can anyone recommend some other company with a boom truck that would be willing  to unstep/restep the mast?

Dan

Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: Captain Smollett on April 23, 2019, 09:37:02 AM
Quote from: lastgreatgeneration on April 23, 2019, 09:06:24 AM

I need to find a friend with a bigger boat or the same size then lower it down with the halyard then lay it on a cradle on deck..


Okay, there are quite a few ways to skin this cat.  A 36 ft mast is not that bad.  You only need to support mast at, or slightly above, the balance point.

Check out that A30 link I included above.  The link points to the first page of a process that the A-30 group on the Chesapeake uses all the time to raise and lower masts.  Basically, an a-frame slightly taller than half the height of the mast is built.  Suspended from the top of the A is a block and tackle for lifting and lowering under control.  Other control lines are used.

It's about a 3 person operation.

I've participated in raising a mast just a bit smaller than yours by hand.  That's work, but it can be done.  Boat was in the water at the time.

No way I'd pay what they are charging at that yard.
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: lastgreatgeneration on April 23, 2019, 12:05:08 PM
So basically the plan now is to just get the bottom work don't and get out of there. I need to raise the waterline, barrier coat, antifoul, add through hulls for the head. Remove and reinstall grounding plate with coosa backing plate, replace screws. Replace rub strake. Remove and reseal exhaust port, replace corroded screws.

Here's the strips I made out of red balau decking boards from Indonesia. Ready to be installed. At least I'm getting a few things done from the long list. The mast will have to wait for now.
Title: Re: Transporting 36’ mast
Post by: Frank on April 23, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Quote from: Norman on April 22, 2019, 08:42:41 PM
Let me know when you decide what is next.

I will be gone the next week sailing the ICW along the coast of Georgia.  Hoping for light winds and little rain, which is forecast.  We are in the lower end of the Sailfar range, at 18 1/2 feet, a Hunter with wing keel, so 150 miles is 'Far'.

Norman

Have fun Norman!
Pictures please 😄