Anyone know what these boats are?
I like the cockpit woodwork on one.
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The other looks like a Flicka but seems too small
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Happy Easter Folks!
The bow looks similar to a flicka, but the cabin is different and it sits too low on the trailer.The other may be an older late 60's era Ericson 33ft. Happy easter to you as well. I hid my eggs last night....still can't find them :o
top one might be a Pearson Vanguard
Quote from: Frank on March 23, 2008, 08:46:01 PM
Happy easter to you as well. I hid my eggs last night....still can't find them :o
Frank, you didn't hide them overboard did you? ;) ;D
dont remember...still looking ;D
The first one does look like it might be a Vanguard, and the lil' one a catboat of some sort. Is that a long bowsprit it has?
Frank - look under the pile of beer cans.
;D
Capt K....they are rum bottles not beer cans. You drink too much :o PS found them
I like eggs
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Pete, I thought you had a sailboat ;D
Just got an email from Rachel, who for some reason cannot log in. She says-
"Boat number 1 *might* be a Cheoy Lee of some sort, but I can't tell for sure. Not a Vanguard.
Boat number 2 is definitely a Blackwatch 19. Customarily a cutter, although Norm has a (probably one-off) cat-rigged one.
There, got that out of my system."
Norm is a friend from TSBB.
Sailboat?
Not for me.
Too much work
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Hey! That Rice Diet really seems to be working!
I just noticed it at the local yard, described as '27' boat'.
This boat sailed into the harbor here in Culebra yesterday and sailed out this morning before I got a chance to dinghy over and talk to them. Its a gorgous boat but I cant figure out what it is, I thought you folks here would be the experts and might be able to ID it. Its fibreglass so I beleive it is a production boat and not a one off, my guess at length is about 27 or 28 feet, when comparing it to a Cape Dory 25D anchored nearby. Note the rather short coach roof which ends before reaching the mast, much like a llyel hess design, but it is definately not a BCC or a Falmouth Cutter. The rig is very tall, with a bowsprit but no bumkin, which leads me to beleive it is not a hess design at all (his rigs are low aspect).
Any ideas? Its going to drive me nuts until I know!
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dollars to donuts it is a Cape Georges Cutter
I think Norm's got it. This is a Cape George 31 (http://www.capegeorgecutters.com/31/).
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The cabin extends way too far forward on the CG 31. Note in the pic how the cabin stops aft of the mast...on the drawing of the 31 it extends forward of the mast..
Hmmm... then it isn't a Cape George 31... the other bits look about right though, even the rubrail and bobstay. Could it be a modified Cape George design?? It appears to be a pilot cutter design of some sort, not the Falmouth Cutter either though. was the 28' measurement LOD or LOA???
Who did Lyle Hess get the idea for the BCC from?
search 'channel cutter'....they've been sailing English waters for over a century... beauties aren't they.The one in the pic (or the 31) is way too upswept at the bow and doesn't have a plumb stern like a channel cutter. I've seen 2 boats similar to the pic in Bahamas...no name tho?
As I recall, Cape George Cutters are built with a fiberglass hull, and wood deck and cabin. I also recall hearing that no two Cape George Cutters are exactly alike. Since they are semi-custom, I think it is highly possible that they built a boat with a short cabin.
Assuming it is a keel stepped mast, it actually makes a lot of sense to keep the cabin short. Supporting the mast at the deck is far stronger than through the cabin. Does kinda mess up headroom, though.
Just got this email from a friend who is up on THAT boat.
"Sheesh, I'm going to have to join SailFar, aren't I?
That boat they're now asking about IS a Cape George 31. It was built from a hull and deck by a fellow in Wisconsin and he's now cruising in the Caribbean (last I knew). I don't have a link to hand at the moment though.
What a boat! "
I guess Norm tagged it in the first place. :)
Looks like Norm and adrift were right....'me wrong' :o The pic sure looked like their 31 hull to me, but the cabin length is wrong to the cabin they show line drawings of. Maybe a BCC family...while the cabin looked right, the hull profile was wrong.Adrift really got it RIGHT with a modified CG ! Never thought of 'custom' boats. Craig or Lynx...there was a very similar boat in Black Sound last winter and near hope Town as well.Did either of you's notice it? BTW..looks like these guys got the moulds and are the new builders of the BCC as well after Sam Morris closed last year. grog to Norm and adrift ;) ps..thanks CJ
Here's another 'mystery' waiting to be solved.Spotted at Guana Cay in 06, about 19ft on deck and a shallow full keel. Very pretty lil boat http://sailfar.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=127
Friendship sloop? I believe reproductions started around 20 or 21 feet. If not a true friendship, it sure looks like a derivative.
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Lynx, I'm fairly sure she is a Dutch 'Botter'. Very bluff bow, shallow draft with those big lee boards port and starboard. They are rigged with easily lowered masts to allow them to get up under the canal bridges. There used to be thousands on the Dutch and other European canals and inland waters as working vessels. Most are now privately owned as family 'yachts' Regards Saxon.
(There are one or two similar vessels with unpronouncable names (at least to a Brit!) but I think she's a Botter.
I thought that also- at first. But when I googled Botter, none of them had the "steeved down" bow sprit. That I saw anyway. So maybe that isn't it. The stern is right though, and it certainly could be a Botter.
You're right CharlieJ, the 'Botters' I've seen normally carry their bowsprit up at about 45 degrees. Perhaps because it's unrigged ie: no forestay because the mast is stowed, that the bowsprit is down horizontal? Just a guess though.
A Dutch Botter yacht used to visit my home port a few years ago, about 6 or 7 kids, Mum Dad, 3 dogs and acres of immaculate varnish work. Oh! and a little motorbike stowed on the foredeck. :D
Regards Saxon
I've gotta agree: Those leeboards and that stern just scream "Dutch."
Thanks, She was between locks 2 and 6 on the Erie Canal. Strange place to tie up. I hope to see here in Fl this winter or along the way.
Another thought: Could she be a European canal boat or an old-style British "narrow boat" rigged for sail?
I have to confess to not being computer literate folks, but if you Google Apollo duck botter you will find there is a reasonable photo of a botter named 'Albatros'. She's got the proper stern and strange Gaff type main. I don't think any still trade commercially, most have had cabins and deck houses built on but there are still some real beauties to be seen on the Dutch shallow inland 'seas' like Ijsselmeer and Markermeer.
You would like our canal boats Oldrig, although to deepwater sailors they look strange, a common size is 60 to 70 foot long with a 10 foot beam! They are flat bottomed with no lee boards but have huge rudders a bit like the Botters. Most are very well preserved and are painted in traditional patterns and designs and many are the only home some families have. Regards Saxon
Interesting looking 26'er on ebay.
Kinda looks like a Vega but it has the head aft across from the galley (like a dana).
Pretty darn low buy it now price too :)
Ebay listing "26 foot sailboat" (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boats_Sailboats__26-Sailboat_W0QQitemZ160285548868QQddnZBoatsQQadnZSailboatsQQddiZ2831QQadiZ2794QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160285548868&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A10%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)
(edit) sorry just saw the name "Mcvay Micmac" never heard of it still though... any insight?
(edit again) just found some info on this...
MicMac (http://olya.250free.com/)
Wow, for $2600 looks like a steal!