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Title: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 19, 2009, 06:35:56 PM
So, I am finally a yacht owner. No blue blazer with white shoes yet, just mildew, deisel and bottom paint crud.

Yesterday was a great day  :D

(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_2_020.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0KSPrhrbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwMVrRuv0U

Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Frank on May 19, 2009, 06:40:02 PM
CONGRATS  ;D ;) :o     Grog to ya     More pics please
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 19, 2009, 06:53:50 PM
LOL I will post all I have, but all they do is highlight how much work I have ahead of me :D

(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_interior_017.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_interior_003.jpg)
Current Nav Station (I have plans though)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_interior_022.jpg)
Head WILL be replaced, likely by a porta potti style with a pump out/overboard option
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_interior_004.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_head_drawing_v2.jpg)
I may remove this sink, it will get rid of 2 holes in my hull and then replace it with a hanging locker for wet stuff. Besides it is a small boat, the kitchen sink can wash hands too.
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_interior_006.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_interior_009.jpg)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 19, 2009, 08:06:54 PM
Electronics
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_survey_002.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_survey_001.jpg)

And some exterior pics.
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/shady_lady.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_2_024.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_2_023.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_2_001_708639.jpg)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 19, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
Could this be moved? I must be overly exposed to fumes today. This has nothing to do with books.
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: newt on May 20, 2009, 12:42:05 PM
Everything can be moved, it just depends how much you want to pay for it. ;D It looks lNike it is all there, just needs going through and cleaning up. I would think about some bottom pain before you splash it, of of course check all your thru-hulls and possible leaks.
"Nothing works on this old boat but it's owner"- saw that somewhere. :D
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: CharlieJ on May 20, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
Newt- he was asking the thread to be moved to a more appropriate section. And it was done.

;)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 20, 2009, 01:13:43 PM
LOL, I guess I should have been more explicit, thanks for the help.

I finished a light sand and wash of the hull today, paint will go on tomorrow if the weather hold up. All the through hulls are tight and seacocks work, so hopefully no leaks. 9 days and counting to launch day :)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: maxiSwede on May 20, 2009, 03:14:54 PM
Congrats on the new- to U - boat.

The only thing that looks bad is that crappy plastic carpet on the cabin sole.... if you forgive me for expressing a quite personal point of view  ;)

Anyway, go ahea and have fun!

BTW, the boat looks VERY shallow draft, or is it something with the angle the pic was taken from?
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 20, 2009, 07:40:53 PM
LOL The sticky tile parkay fake floor is high on my "to do" hit list, and yes the draft is 3'3" and 3200 lbs on a 7000lb displacement boat.

Right now though I have to deal with a couple of minor mechanical issues and really giving it a good cleaning with a fresh coat of white paint inside the lockers and all the rest of the storage areas, then comes the teak, and then the floor.

Should be fun.  :-[
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: jotruk on May 21, 2009, 08:49:55 AM
Congrats on the new (2u) boat. I have a Hunter 27 also it is a lot of fun to sail and handles well. Place 2nd in last weekends club race.
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 21, 2009, 10:00:03 AM
And here is the new bottom paint, it really needs a complete bottom job done I think, but I don't want to waste this season on the hard, so I just did a powerwash, light sand and new bottom coat.

Still looks much better IMO

(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_27_new_bottom_002.jpg)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Chattcatdaddy on May 21, 2009, 12:39:45 PM
Nice job! Looks a lot better!
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: newt on May 21, 2009, 01:25:45 PM
Uhh..Thanks Charlie, I will try to engage my brain before I start typing next time. I think I going to try to forget about this thread and hope Greenman gets advice from people that are awake.
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: captain cajun on May 21, 2009, 02:32:52 PM
Greenman,  very happy for you congrats! ;D
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: dnice on May 21, 2009, 11:19:53 PM
congrats on the purchase!
I think I saw your youtube video of the pre-buy :)

I think thats a great boat and will probably take you a lot further than you are imagining (or are being told).

What are you cruising grounds? and do you have any plans for taking it outside your cruising grounds?
just curious.

Get that baby in the water and go :)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on May 22, 2009, 04:15:40 AM
I am in Nova Scotia and will be sailing the Halifax Harbour, maybe with a week trip down the coast to Lunenburg in July, then a week up the coast in Spetember. All dependant on how much I get out before then. I need all the experience I can get in the Harbour before I venture out alone. I am pretty much assured 3 trips a week (Wednesday night racing, then the weekend).

Already things are looking way better than the video, with the new bottom, engine tune up, thourough cleaning and paint inside. Here is a list of what needs to be done by next Saturday. It will be a crazy week. Some of my list is done, but lots to go still.

CHECK/CLOSE ALL SEACOCKS & LUBRICATE

ADD INSPECTION PORT TO FUEL TANK

CLEAN TANK

CHANGE FUEL FILTER

CHANGE OIL

BUY NEW BATTERIES ($240)

CHANGE BILGE PUMP

CHANGE ZINCS



ADD SWIM LADDER ($130)

NEW HEAD ($200-$500)

SANITIZE/FLUSH WATER TANK

ADD LOCK TO TABLE LEG

FIX STANCHIONS

PUT UP NETTING



CLEAN/PAINT

SETTEE STORAGE LOCKERS

GALLEY STORAGE LOCKERS

HEAD STORAGE LOCKERS

And I am sure I am forgetting a few things :D

Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: CapnK on May 22, 2009, 09:58:01 AM
Greenman - congrats on yer new lady, and a Grog for yall. :)

She's not looking bad at all! She'll be a beauty when you get done taking care of her, and will repay you in kind.
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: maxiSwede on May 22, 2009, 12:53:21 PM
Keep up the good work Mr Greenman and keep us posted. seems like you got yourself a pretty nice boat for the bucks spent, eh?

;D
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Christopher on May 25, 2009, 10:09:29 PM
Congrats on your boat!  I've sailed a lot aboard an H27, a '76 to be specific.  Nice performing boat.  We were in a decent blow aboard last year and she stood up very well...  Wish the owner would've installed lee cloths... I spent my break in the rotation on deck trying to get rest wedging myself between the bulkhead and icebox...

In any case... great boat and congrats!
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on July 27, 2009, 08:51:43 PM
So, I have completed most of the work in the main Cabin. I still have to take the sink out of the head to make room for a hanging locker. I made new curtains, and such, which was fun to get the sewing machine dusted off.

(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/interior_starboard_3.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/interior_port_2.jpg)
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/interior_galley_1.jpg)

New Name (lots of rum drunk and a little sacrificed to the sea  ;) )
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_interior_after_033.jpg)

My wife Lauras very first sail. Notice the bud light..............I guess she was comfortable enough to booze it up   :o
(http://www.cruisersforum.com/attachments/gallery/1/3/4/3/6/hunter_interior_after_012.jpg)
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Captain Smollett on July 27, 2009, 10:51:21 PM
Nice looking work, there.  Grog to you.
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: s/v Faith on July 28, 2009, 12:10:36 AM
I hope Laura greatly enjoyed her first sail.  So very important to consider your crew before your self...  might be the difference in the dream coming off or causing life long strife.

 I am blessed with my First Mate.  I told her she would not get sea sick, and she believed her Capt.  She never has gotten sick.   She had never been aboard a boat when we met, and now she have steered through the big stuff, and can generally handle anything on the boat that needs doing.  Life is MUCH better this way.  ;D

;D

Congrats on the new boat.  She looks to be in pretty good shape, and Hunter does have a fair amount of nice gear from the factory (pressure water, good head, generous sleeping berths).

 Like any boat she has weaknesses that need to be considered.  The biggest thing that I would be mindful cursing in a Hunter 27 is that shallow inlets with a swell must always be avoided.  We had just such an inlet at the mouth of the new River, and while I ran it many times more then most, it was VERY easy to bottom out.  An unprotected rudder would get tweaked in a heart beat.  At one time we had 4 Hunters (IIRC) 27' 30' 33' and a 4400 (even more fuzzy on that one).  All had rudder damage done in the inlet or out on the river.  THe aluminum shafts simply give too easily and it does not take much.

 It would be terrible to predict this would happen to you and your new boat.  It need not happen, and will not happen as long as you are mindful of this issue.  There are literally tens of thousands of boats out there with this issue that have never had any problem.  You must be just a little more careful about your draft, and if and when you do touch bottom you need to be mindful of how you work to free the boat.  

 If the rudder is stuck, and you can put a couple anchors out to keep from going harder aground... do that.  If the sea-tow cowboy wants to drag you off the sand bar make sure you are SURE that is the only way to get off.... otherwise you are going to be dropping the rudder for repair or replacement soon.

 There are those for whom these issues have never appeared.  Unfortunately others are sailing a boat with compromised steering they do not plan to fix.

Like ALL sailboats, there are compromises and things to be careful of.  You should be mindful of this issue, which is why I mention it.  To combat it, things you can do are;

 1.  Pay close attention to your navigation.  I admittedly get a but sloppy at times, and an likely to find the bottom more because of it.  I would strongly not recommend you take this approach.  If you are at all unsure, slow down.

 2.  If you go aground, check the tiller to see if the rudder is touching.  plan your un-grounding so you do not drag the rudder.

 3.  On your next haul out, drop the rudder and check for signs the shaft has been bent and straightened.  The rudder shaft is hallow aluminum and easy to tweak.    You can get a new rudder and shaft built by 'Foss Foam' for a fairly reasonable price.  If I owned one, I might look into a stainless shaft, or at least a solid aluminum shaft.  Hunter's corporate line is that would add too much weight aft.... poppycock!  I might even see if I could drop an old stainless prop shaft down the center of the hollow rudder tube.  I would encapsulate it in epoxy to prevent corrosion between the SS and ALU.  

 Be careful, be mindful.  You have a boat that should take you where you want to go, with great interior space, and lots of nice goodies.  You should be able to sell it for at least what you bought it for when (if) you decide to move on.

Congratulations.

 

Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: jotruk on July 28, 2009, 11:56:03 AM
Great to see that you have a hunter27 I also have a h27 and enjoy sailing it. I have several people here at the marina that keep telling me that a hunter can't go to the islands and that they would not trust it in a bay let alone the coast. I don't let them get to me and believe that the boat can go where I want to go given I am watchfull of the weather, and that is true of any boat any way good luck with the new boat and she is looking very good
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: nowell on July 28, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Wow, looking at the before and after pics, you sure put in a good ammount of work to her! Congrats! You should be proud! Looks real nice.
Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: Greenman on July 28, 2009, 01:21:18 PM
Thanks for the advice I hada good look at the rudder with the surveyor, but he missed a lot so I do not really trust his judgement. I will drop it in the fall andsee about a new shaft.

As for taking it to the islands, I don't know, I guess if you had a great weather window it would do fine, and once it was in the Bahamas it would be awesome with it's 3'3" draft. I know the previous owner sailed it a lot a fair distance off shore around Nova Scotia and in the Bay of Fundy, so I expect it handles alright, once again in the right weather.

I did just notice that the date/time stamp on my pictures is whacked. I wish it was nice enough to sail in January, but this is Canada after all.  :)

Title: Re: Brand New (to me) 1977 Hunter 27
Post by: SV Wind Dancer on October 05, 2009, 04:12:57 PM
Hello from another '77 H27 owner, I have the deep draft model, sailing/la 3yrs, rebuilding it into a true poor man's globe girdler, one Andy Jackson at a time...Great design...Mazeltov!