Well I did it, I'm now the proud owner of a Com-Pac 19.
Will be picking her up towards the end of the week. ;D
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/19d.jpg)
-Kevin
Congrats!!!!!!!
Great boats!!!
In a similar vein, Friday I'm on my way up to Indiantown Marina to bring my baby home! :)
(Hurricane permitting, of course)
Adam
http://www.svjourney.org
Congrats, Kevin!! :)
Be looking forward to reading more as you get to know her.
Congrats on the new to you boat. :D
Congrats on the purchase. From 1 Com-Pac owner to another... ya gonna love her!!!
WTG, Kev! ;D ;D ;D
The family will love it. Probably already do! Now that you have acted upon your 3'ft -itis, you have a year or two of 'non-looking' at other boats ahead of you. :D
Adam - good luck and have fun to you, too!
Congrats!
Grog...... all who purchase new boat need deserve grog..... Drink up. :D
Enjoy!
Kevin,
I don't know if you've seen this Small Boat Journal (http://councill.home.mindspring.com/sbjournal/sanpac/sanpac.html) article, but thought you might find it interesting. I like it, too, since my boat is the OTHER one discussed! ;)
Haven't been to the site in a while so I thought I'd bump my old thread. We had a great month of September sailing around in our CP19, even did one overnighter. We had our share of mishaps as well grand old times, I guess that is the nature of sailing.
Starting to get the feeling I like performance over just cruising about, not quite sure where that will lead me but I do so enjoy when the wind is blowing and the boat is heeling. I posted up a few pictures of the family and I out and about.
With my Com-Pac 16 still for sale on the front lawn and a Com-Pac 19 parked in the driveway, I've found myself already pondering my next vessel...a Tanzer 22.
Just call me crazy! 8)
Have a great holiday season everyone.
-Kevin
Quote from: K3v1n on December 03, 2006, 08:31:43 PM
With my Com-Pac 16 still for sale on the front lawn and a Com-Pac 19 parked in the driveway, I've found myself already pondering my next vessel...a Tanzer 22.
Uh-oh. Sounds like sudden onset 3-ft itis. ;)
Glad to see there are many 'boat addicts' out there. I've sailed Tanzer 22's....HUGE cockpit,stable,fast,responsive.Bonus is if you are tall and sitting on the head..you can open the hatch,stick your head out and look around (honest) They truely do sail really well. Now...about that 25??
The problem is that the Tanzer has a huge cockpit, which becomes a liability on longer passages, especially if you're away from easily accessible safe harbors... Boats with huge cockpits are poor long-distance cruisers IMHO, and are best used for daysailing or shorter over night trips.
Kevin ... You mentioned performance....you would be hard pressed to get a faster,more responsive,more forgiving,stable boat with room to take the kids and friends out AND at a better price ..than a T22. Might not be an 'ocean crosser' but one heck of a good fun family boat
Quote from: AdriftAtSea on December 05, 2006, 06:55:34 AM
The problem is that the Tanzer has a huge cockpit, which becomes a liability on longer passages, especially if you're away from easily accessible safe harbors... Boats with huge cockpits are poor long-distance cruisers IMHO, and are best used for daysailing or shorter over night trips.
Just a thought: Long distance does not have to equal "offshore." I could leave right now in my 18 footer and sail 1000 miles North or South and never be out of site of land. And I'd be perfectly comfortable doing that, and I could do it without touching land for a week or two if I wanted.
EVERYTHING on any boat is a trade-off, and moresor on smaller boats. Perhaps that large cockpit buys something more positive somewhere else in the design. I don't dispute that ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, a large cockpit is often less desirable than a small one, but my point is that NOTHING ELSE is equal. We seem to spend a lot of time debated apples and oranges comparisons in boat designs.
The best boat for making a passage is the one that is making a passage.
I think orange designed boats would float better, but the apple will may take say running into a countainer, better. However with age, perhaps the apple would do better because of the water tight chambers, where the orange is more compartmentalized. Therefore with age would start beaking down each section. On the other hand the boyancy factor being greater in the orange design would still make it a worthwhile purchased for a long term sea voyage, beside the Vit.C content, in an emergency. However... then your capsizing ratio is shot all to heck!
I will not even get into the color safty factors over orange vs red , or green
;)
Captain Smollett-
One thing I'd mention is that even being in sight of shore doesn't necessarily mean much. The New Jersey coastline is fairly inhospitable to boats, and you can stay within sight of the coastline, but if a storm pops up, you'd often be better off heading out rather than trying to get into one of the few harbors available along it.
One woman I know sails the Great Lakes, and she points out that being on a lake doesn't really mean much when you're talking Lake Michigan or Superior, the two that she frequents the most.
However, I fully agree that the best boat for making a passage is the one that is making it... a boat does you no good if it doesn't get used...
I'd also agree that smaller boats generally have to make more compromises than larger boats, mainly due to the more limited space.
Zen-
I like the bannana boats best. :D
Kevin -
We aren't headed for an intervention here in another couple years, are we??? :D
I wouldn't be using the Tanzer for long ocean passages by any means. It would still be a bay sailer but it would be neat to take a peek outside when the conditions are just right. The ocean is no the problem where I'm located, it is the inlet that is the obstacle.
http://cirp.wes.army.mil/cirp/gallery/phpslideshow.php?directory=barnegat
http://www.njscuba.net/sites/site_barnegat_inlet.html
Zen...what about a pineapple boat?? Thicker hull,bigger,holds more food...way better than an apple or an orange boat. I like the 'best boat is the one you're on' principle.Getting out there is more important than anything and great passages have been made on inferior boats. Heck...the famous 'SPRAY' was a terrible offshore design (honest)....Slocum didn't think so. And big cockpits...seems to me " Zoltan" sailed his pearson commander 3/4 way around the world including the red sea.Think he paid $1000 for it ..and us Ariel guys know..a Commander has a huge cockpit. Moral of the story..get a boat you like..use it..HAVE FUN !!! Now ..about that pinapple design?? :o
I joined up at the Tanzer Group, finding a lot of great info on the T22 and T26. I posted asking a few questions and I've even had a few guys email me to buy their boats. I think I'm headed down that slippery slope. :o
-Kevin
Yeah... well looks like I'll have to get at least one boat sold before I can do anything more, but I'm looking at the 22 if it was to happen.
Come the new year I have to start cleaning the bottom of my CP19 so it will be ready for paint come spring, like to get her in early part of April, ahhhh, unless I sold it before then. ;)
-Kevin
Quote from: K3v1n on December 17, 2006, 10:28:18 AM
I joined up at the Tanzer Group, finding a lot of great info on the T22 and T26. I posted asking a few questions and I've even had a few guys email me to buy their boats. I think I'm headed down that slippery slope. :o
-Kevin
The latest 'Good old Boat' (http://www.goodoldboat.com/) has an article on a Tanzer (7.5?)
Might be worth taking a look at. If you don't subscribe they give a free sample issue. Great magazine as many here have said already.
Buddy of mine gave me his copy and yes I did read the article about the T 7.5, seems to be a very nice little boat. The next couple of months will help me decide as per future work and the like. I'm afraid to keep getting bigger boats just to find I have to down size because of financial reasons.
Have a Healthy and Happy New Year everyone!
-Kevin
The Tanzer 7.5 has more headroom than the 22... ya can 'almost' stand up in it...about 5'7'' by memory. Caution...I owned a shiny new 7.5 in 1984....the 22 will sail circles around it !! The 22..for whatever reason is a darn fine sailor..fast,well behaved and balanced. The 7.5 has gone down in my books as a poor performer....but it would have more room inside for the 'kiddies'and they seem to have stood up well.
Yeah... the 22 sounds like a fast sailor which would be the only reason to step up from my Com-Pac 19.
-Kevin
If you're still 'courting' Tanzers...check out the 26 ..it is a GREAT sailor !! Lots out there,have stood up well,big inside,fast,shallow draft (3ft 8in by failing memory) and not a lot of $$ as a bonus !! You could get a few sets of '2ft itess' out of the way at once !! Have fun looking/dreaming...it's a long winter.
I own a Paceship PY 26 which is the same boat as the Tanzer 27, Wonderful boat IMHO ;D
I've been drooling at Pacific Seacraft Orion 27- :o
Oded Kishony
Well after much talk with the 'Admiral' I have decided to hang tight with my Com-Pac 19 and continue to gain experience instead of boat length. I'm looking into taking the Basic Keelboat class at the local ASA certified sail school.
My wife says she can see us doing some coastal cruising in the future once the last chick leaves the nest, in about 9 years. I'd sure like to sail out to Bermuda one day and of course the Bahamas.
She expressed interest in the Dana 24 (http://www.48north.com/mar_2004/dana24.htm), I tried to steer her toward something more affordable like a Flicka, but hey, she's the Admiral who am I to argue. At any rate she started a 'Boat Savings Account', the BSA as it has come to be known.
So here's to the future, it looks great! ...well at least it is a plan. ;)
WARNING: Of course everything is subject to change.
-Kevin
PS.
On a side note, with the warm weather up here in Jersey this weekend I managed to clean up the teak on 'Gypsy Soul' and get a couple coats of oil on.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/slip4.jpg)
"Once more upon the waters! Yet once more!
And the waves bound beneath me as a steed
that knows his rider."
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/slip7.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/slip8.jpg)
Yes! Gypsy Soul has been dipped once more into the briny sea. Didn't get to sail today, we just launched her then motored over to the slip. Spent some time figuring out the lines and getting gear stored in the right places.
Robin was the official photographer for the mast raising as Mom assisted me with the task at hand.
Thing's went fairly smooth, I didn't yell much at all. ;)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/slip9.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/slip6.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/slip2.jpg)
Hope for an evening sail on Monday after work.
Looking forward to a great season of sailing.
-Kevin
"Now, bring me that horizon!"
Good job!
Very nice Pics. Tell Robin she did a good job documenting the process.
The MacGregor's have something like that -
(http://www.macgregor26.com/mast_raising/mast_raising_small.jpg)
(not me or my boat)
A few people are buying these for their non-Mac boats. Just attach to the bow cleat, 2 baby stays and an attachment to the mast. Nice, but the crank will free spin on the way down.
Lynx- that is incorrect. If you buy the winch from Macgregor that they use in the mast raising setup, it will not spin. It's a clutched winch- If you let the handle go, the line will move about 4 inches and stop when the clutch tightens.
I'm a Macgregor dealer and have a brand new 2007 sitting out front right now.
Great Pictures Kevin.
We got a third C-19 in our marina this week. Great folks, and a really wel set up little boat. I thought theirs was tricked out, with roller furling..... got nothngin on yours with the anchor roller though. ;D
Very Nice
CharlieJ - Mine will stop in one direction and free spin in another. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Not really a big deal for me as I keep the boat mast up, next to the water and I am not used to using it. I had a 16 footer that I raised the mast by myself. It was light, just but an addition line on the jib halyard, looped it through something back to the cockpit, pushed the mast up and then tightened the line and tied it off.
I do like the system as I am not under the mast when lowering and it is not as much work.
Just want to let you know that this mast raising kit could be bought for other boats other than Mac's.
It should have a cork disc in there as a clutch. And if you stop cranking, it should just sit there, even if you let the handle go.
And yeah- we sell the Mac Mast raiser for $135 with everything- Brake winch, pole, baby stays and all hardware. Plus freight of course.
Thanks everyone, I spent alot of hours cleaning the hull and painting. I'm glad to have her in the water, was starting to doubt it would ever happen.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/soul3.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/paint.jpg)
Oh, and did I mention the forest fire. :o
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/Fire2.jpg)
Actually I was worried about how I would raise the mast, in the end I just walked it up with no problems. I had seen that Macgregor at the boat show in Philly, sorry Charlie but that is one ugly boat. ;)
-Kevin
Kevin-
What??? No fish for the bottom paint job??
Kevin - to each his own.
Good luck with yours, you are doing a great job on the restoration.
Thanks,
I guess I just like a traditional looking vessel. But there was a long line of people who wanted to see that Macgregor, it does have its following.
I did get out everyday over the long weekend and sailed.
It was great even got my son out for the first time.
Wind was honking pretty good, got the GPS to hit 5.9 knots several times.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/chris.jpg)
Took some video with my camera.
http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/?action=view¤t=100_2822.flv (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Compac19/?action=view¤t=100_2822.flv)
-Kevin
Just an update to let you know I've been enjoying having the boat at a slip so far this season. I've been out numerous times with several family members along as crew, well...passengers. ;)
It is great to just head out after work for a nice sunset sail. :)
-Kevin