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Title: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Captain Smollett on December 21, 2005, 08:51:29 PM
I haven't built this yet, but I got this idea from Chris's Widget site:

Widget-the Mighty Trailer Sailer (http://www.widgetsailor.com/proframe.html)

His design allows double use in the cockpit/cabin and it folds flat for storage.  I imagine there are a number of similar designs out there on the 'net, but this one looks simple enough that even I could build it.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: dasein668 on December 22, 2005, 09:28:04 AM
That's a nice looking table.

Here's another idea for a cockpit table that Tim Lackey and I devised:

Small Boat Cockpit Table (http://www.triton381.com/projects/smallprojects/cockpittable.htm)

Tim used an aluminum leg for his. When I built mine I used a length of PVC pipe with threaded fittings on the end. It works well, though the aluminum leg that Tim used is definitely stronger.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Jack Tar on December 23, 2005, 01:54:39 PM
There are some very nice tables like the first thread but made like grating. They are available at IKEA and for only $24
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: CapnK on December 24, 2005, 03:45:03 AM
Nathan or Tim -

I looked at that page the other day when it was first posted (nice job, btw - idea filed for future consideration). I've been meaning to ask, in regards to the fiddle which didn't quite work out, you said you put an "eggamaroll" edge ;) or something on it, instead of the fiddle. Care to elaborate on what that is?
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: dasein668 on December 27, 2005, 08:38:09 AM
Well, I didn't put anything on the edge—I just eased the sharp edge with some sandpaper. I think Tim used a router with a Roman Ogee bit or similar just to put a decorative egde on there.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: CapnK on December 27, 2005, 09:59:57 AM
That's it, Nathan - what is an "Roman Ogee" bit?

A guess - it shapes the edge so nicely that, when you first see it, you exclaim "Oh, gee! Lookit that!" in Latin? ;D
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: dasein668 on December 29, 2005, 12:00:46 PM
It's a standard classical edging profile (http://www.hartvilletool.com/router_bits/11057/758).
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Jack Tar on January 06, 2006, 07:12:16 PM
Here is the IKEA Table $25 cant be beat.
(http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/22526_PE107403_S3.jpg)
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: CapnK on January 07, 2006, 09:11:48 AM
Here's a link to the page on the IKEA site with that table. It is 19 5/8" in all 3 dimensions, made of solid walnut. (How does walnut hold up to damp? Does it twist/warp when wet?)

IKEA Side table HOL (http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?topcategoryId=15564&catalogId=10103&storeId=12&productId=12134&langId=-1&parentCats=15564*15797*15800)
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Zen on January 07, 2006, 08:55:30 PM
I used a folding pine table (ikea) then varished it. No worries about weather. Also, VERY Cheap
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Jack Tar on January 10, 2006, 12:02:44 AM
For crying out loud it's $25. A little teak stain or oil and no one will know or care.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Captain Smollett on January 10, 2006, 12:29:05 PM
The table I started the thread with was custom cut for both cabin and cockpit on my boat.  That is, oriented one way, the legs 'just fit' in the cockpit floor, and turned 90 degrees, they just fit in the cabin between the side berths.  It is this feature that made it interesting to me.

(the Sanibel design has no permanent cabin table, of course).

If this $25 model fits that snuggly in both cockpit and cabin, well, that's a hard deal to beat.
Title: A new table for Tehani
Post by: CharlieJ on March 30, 2006, 09:30:52 PM
I've been trying for some time to come up with a table for use inside Tehani. Here's what finally happened.

Last weekend I finally built a table for us to use inside Tehani, while anchored or in calm waters. NOT for use offshore. I had some scraps of teak around so used that to build it. When not in use it will stow under the foredeck above the vee berth.

Here's the table underside, all folded up-The leg is held closed with a turnbutton. The hooks that you see hook into stainless barckets on each side of the entry to the fore cabin.

(http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1143716284.jpg)

Here's the leg opened up, showing how it's attached. The hinges are mortised in deeply enough so it will lay flat.
(http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1143716366.jpg)

Here's how it sets up inside the boat, mounting into table brackets on the bulkhead-

(http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1143716426.jpg)

And finally- the obligatory sailing mag type pic with all the "stuff" on it

(http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1143716493.jpg)

As I said- not intended for use offshore. Then we'll use the traditional "wedge yourself into a corner and hold the bowl tight" methodology.  ;D

Title: Re: A new table for Tehani
Post by: Pixie Dust on March 31, 2006, 09:25:44 PM
Charlie- the table looks great!!  Very nice job.  You may end up getting some orders!  What was for dinner that night. :)
Title: Re: A new table for Tehani
Post by: CapnK on May 11, 2006, 11:12:16 AM
It was obviously a diet meal... ;)

Looks *sharp*, CJ!
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: BobW on December 20, 2006, 03:14:57 PM
Charlie,

How does the support for the forward end of the table attach to the bulkhead?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: CharlieJ on December 20, 2006, 04:48:36 PM
LOL Bob- been so long since I posted those pics I had to be sure you were asking ME.

Look in the first pic- see the hooks on each end? Those drop into table mounting brackets that live on the bulkhead, each side the opening. Laura hates 'em cause they stick out and aren't really pretty, but that's what we had to do. The piece they are mounted to is that long because the opening in the bulkhead is that wide. Tried narrowing it and Laura wouldn't have it. Glad now she won ;) Much more air flow with the wider opening.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: BobW on December 20, 2006, 07:30:07 PM
Table mounting brackets... didn't know such hardware existed, but then there's a lot I don't know!  :)

I'm not sure I can make those work (Prelude's bulkheads are even farther apart than Tehani's) but it gives me an idea.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: s/v Faith on December 22, 2006, 08:52:50 AM
Charlie,

  The pictures don't want to load for me.  Can you re-post / or fix them?

Thanks,
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: CharlieJ on December 23, 2006, 09:12:54 AM
I just checked them- they load fine for me. Is anyone else having a problem with those particular pics?

Now the place where they are uploaded will moat likely erase them after the first of the year, but for now they are still there. When I get some free time I'll load them into my gallery, but I can't spare the time right now.

Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: BobW on December 23, 2006, 11:06:18 AM
The pics load fine for me.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Dougcan on December 23, 2006, 02:12:09 PM
Pictures loaded fine for me too Charlie.

Additional note, you forgot the flower and vase on the table.  :D
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: s/v Faith on December 23, 2006, 08:50:15 PM
 ??? They are loading fine for me now also....

  .. Don't know what the problem was?
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: BobW on January 15, 2007, 06:01:57 PM
I finished the cutting, fitting, and assembly of the prototype for a cabin table.  This is more of a "knock-down" table than a "folding" table.

The basic design is a frame that fits over two cleats mounted on the facings of the settee.  There are two 1x3s spaced 3/4" apart on the bottom front edge of the table, forming a slot that fits on the 1x2 top piece of the frame.  A 1x3 supports the back end of the table.  The table top measures 24x24.  It all stows on the V-berth when not in use.

Some pics:

The cleats:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/BobWessel/11507TableCleats.jpg)

The frame:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/BobWessel/11507TableFrame.jpg)

The table:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/BobWessel/11507Table.jpg)

Everything will be stained and finished.

Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Captain Smollett on January 15, 2007, 06:36:27 PM
Nice work, Bob.  That seems to be a little different approach (variety is always welcome). Thanks for posting the pics.
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: LauraG on January 16, 2007, 12:35:40 AM
Verticle cleats! Super idea. I have been trying to figure out a way we can use our table in the cockpit. You just may have given me the answer. Thanks, Bob!
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: BobW on January 16, 2007, 02:10:59 AM
Thanks for the kind comments.  They are appreciated.  :)

Laura, after all the ideas, suggestions, and tips I have gleaned from you and Charlie, I am glad you can use one of mine.  Hope it works for you... We'll expect to see pics!
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Frank on January 16, 2007, 10:25:08 AM
just finished 'jubilee's' in time..we launch tomorrow.Came up with a super simple way to make it detachable to/from the stern rail.

Cockpit Table Bracket:

(http://sailfar.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/flickatablebracket.jpg)

And the cockpit table itself:

(http://sailfar.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/flickacockpittable.jpg)

Edit: Captain Smollet, Added Pictures
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Joe Pyrat on July 13, 2007, 11:05:14 AM
While I haven't seen on of these in a few years, they are very handy.  The table has an L-bracket support that attaches to a groved plate which mounts to a vertical surface.  Wedges are provided to compensate for any slant to the surface.  I bought two mounting plates so I could put one in the cockpit and one in the saloon.

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/pyrat/Sailing/Table//th_Table1.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/pyrat/Sailing/Table/?action=view&current=c48480e8.pbw)
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: CapnK on July 17, 2007, 09:27:02 AM
Joe -

Where do the wedges go? I'm guessing above/below the bracket the L-support slides into?
Title: Re: Folding Cockpit Table
Post by: Joe Pyrat on October 04, 2007, 02:50:17 PM
CapnK,

Sorry for the delay in responding.  The wedges go behind the bulkhead mounted mounting bracket.  They lay flat against the bracket and compensate for any slant to the bulkhead on which the bracket is mounted.  On my application, it was not necessary to use them in the main saloon (as shown in the picture) but I did need to use one of them in the cockpit.

Hope that helps.