names of other boat shaped like a southern cross??

[chris2998]

I assume the hull itself the fiberglass being in a fresh water enviorment will be still far better then the ones in Florida correct?? Just trying to figure here is it worth the extra trouble to go more north to buy but I guess I'll find that out in time whatever I decide to do. Thanks

Chris

[nowell]

Before my AB talked to me, I was looking at Eastward Ho cutters (mid 70s). I really like their interior, pretty spacious. Very similar to the Data 24 (PSC) and the Flicka with just a slightly different transom.

Not sure how they sail, but the little info i've been able to find is pretty good.

EDIT - I think the Eastward Ho was even built in the same plant as the Southern Crosses! I recall coming across that in my research one time.

[chris2998]

Thanks dude I really like the southern cross and I think when it comes down to buying a boat the southern cross will be my first to go walk onto and then a few others to see what is right for me. I like the SC a whole lot but you never know i may walk onto something else and like it even more. I would like to get a boat from up north but we'll just have to see i may find a killer deal in florida who really knows..like others have said the rigging maybe sh*t and all but when I'm done it will be like brand new but anyway thanks a bunch guys

Chris

[dnice]

I assume the hull itself the fiberglass being in a fresh water enviorment will be still far better then the ones in Florida correct?? Just trying to figure here is it worth the extra trouble to go more north to buy but I guess I'll find that out in time whatever I decide to do. Thanks

Chris

other than bottom paint, the hull itself should not be any different with freshwater or saltwater boats (or nothern vs. southern).
The difference will be in all the fittings, rigging, and probably sails. The big difference is that the boats up north usually get 'stored' for the winter, meaning, they get the motor winterized, they take down the mast and they either, shrinkwrap and store indoors or, they put it on the hard, for the winter.
Down south, they don't bother with that as much, (although some owners do), which means everything on the boat is exposed to the elements twice as long as the ones up north. plus the addition of salt water environment on all the steel partsl, and the year-around sun on the sails/deck.

With southern boats, the refit may be more extensive, but the general integrity of the boat itself shouldn't be any differnent than a boat from anywhere else.

So if you are looking for something that needs minimal refit, then yeh go up north, but if you are going to refit most of it anyway, it doesn't matter. Other than that, its all up to how well the previous owner took care of it and what it looks like at the time of inspection. You could find the perfect boat in Florida just as easily as Michigan or California. Its all up to the previous owner, the price, and you.

[AdriftAtSea]

Clark E Ryder's company made several boats of his own as well as manufactured boats for several other brands.  The Ryder house brands were Sea Sprite, Southern Cross, and Black Watch.  Some of the other brands made by CE Ryder were Portsmouth Yacht/Eastward Ho, Sonar, Nightwind 35 and Quick Step.

The Nightwind 35 is a pretty nice boat from what I understand, but not very common.  The Southern Cross boats were both fairly seaworthy and fairly fast... which is a bit of a surprise.  My favorite of the Southern Cross boats is probably the 31. 

After he left the boat building business, he started a yacht brokerage and consulting company, which is based out of Foster, RI, IIRC.

[Frank]

Actuallly...freshwater boats are generally more prone to blisters than saltwater boats.  B U T  sun and salt damage to every other part from gelcoat gloss to rust is far worst on say, a Florida boat.  PS...Dan...they made a beaty 27 fter as well

[AdriftAtSea]

Frank-

Yes, CE Ryder made quite a few nice boats.. :) One I'd love to see someday is a SC 35... but haven't had the chance yet.

[Bill NH]

...Just trying to figure here is it worth the extra trouble to go more north to buy ...

other than bottom paint, the hull itself should not be any different with freshwater or saltwater boats (or nothern vs. southern).

Actually northern vs southern does make a difference.  The 6 months a year out of the water up north results in significantly less blisters than in, say, Florida, where boats are hauled only every couple years and then only long enough to paint the bottom, etc.  While other factors also influence blisters such as the manufacturer's techniques and materials at the time (Valiants had bad blister problems for a period, for example), location does matter.

As Frank pointed out, northern boats just have an easier life in the elements as well.  Given the same model and year, a Maine boat is more likely to have fewer problems and be in better shape than a Florida boat.  The market seems to reflect this as well, with boat prices generally decreasing as you move from north to south...

[chris2998]

Thanks guys yeah I was thinking whatever boat I buy wheather it be north or south I will completely go through it and make it like new and if buying one up north makes my job a little easier and it isn't a HUGE hassel to get it shipped down here then maybe I will buy from up north. I'm what you call ANAL retenant LOL when I buy something used I go completely through it to make new. I'm a welder the gas welder I bought I went completely through and made it look new again and can't even tell you how many offers I get on it. I plan on living on this boat someday so I sure as heck don't want to wake up with it full of water LOL

One question I do have I have thought if I were to buy a 31 SC could I get some jack stands and have the boat lifted and put in my yard on dry land as I go though it refiting everything or is it best and easier just to have it put into a slip and do the work on it while in the water?? I mean motor and tranny work if it needed it would have to be done on land for sure but if I did work on the kitchen and head and all inside the boat could it be done on there water?

Thanks a bunch
Chris