Virtual Vendee Globe...

[skylark]

*raises jolly roger*

[skylark]

How do you calculate what the best angle is when you can't go in the direction you want? 

[maxiSwede]

Hmm, it is just a liitle more interesting than watching the grass growing now, isn't it?

As soon as you're away from the screen a while the boat speed is down to 2-4 knots.... I guess they simply want you to buy the 'extras' A-P's etc.

Worst of all, I am slipping behind CapnK, and that´s obviously more than I can take...  ;D ;) ;D

[nowell]

Worst of all, I am slipping behind CapnK, and that´s obviously more than I can take...  ;D ;) ;D

Actually, your shadowing him, for when he gets de-masted because of his cowboy tactics! That way, not only do you rescue him, but you also have a galley mate so you can arrive in style! ;D ;D

[Tim]

Magnus you guys are still up in area that requires sail changes pretty regularly as the wind shifts around, once you get below the Equator the wind holds a little more consistent. For the the last 24 or more hours I have been able to lay back relax and even get some sleep  :)

Skylark it is really just about how much longitude you are willing to give up for speed. Ultimately it is going to be a tacking exercise eastward.

[CapnK]

How do you calculate what the best angle is when you can't go in the direction you want? 

Paul - When you make a course change, prior to "committing" it, the software shows you 12 and 24 hr projections of your course and distance traveled on same. I'm using that and the wind forecasts to try and divine which way to point the boat.

Magnus - "slipping behind"??? I think you are confusing that with "getting trounced by superior piloting and seamanship". ;D Giddyup! YEEHAH! lol

I have noticed that although the Official Forecast only changes every 12 hours, there are small variations in the wind direction and/or strength between forecasts. They don't show up in the 'arrows', you can find them by playing with the sail and course parameters, though. That's why my course changes so often, just a little. I look to see if I can pick up an extra 10th or two of a knot every so often, and often can, after having been on a straight line for an hour or two.

If the forecast wind doesn't change much, looks like I will become a shellback in a little over 24 hours. :)

[Tim]

That's why my course changes so often, just a little. I look to see if I can pick up an extra 10th or two of a knot every so often, and often can, after having been on a straight line for an hour or two.

RIGHT!!!!!!!

(I think most of us know what the "weaving" is all about  ;)

[nowell]

Donno CapnK, if this crappy wind im having and its forcasted direction keeps moving out, your going to have a hard beat to get between those markers. Im making some agressive moves today to try and catch a favorable beam reach all the way through the markers.

[maxiSwede]

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Actually, your shadowing him, for when he gets de-masted because of his cowboy tactics! That way, not only do you rescue him, but you also have a galley mate so you can arrive in style! ;D ;D
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Now that's a nice way to see it. Some decent cooking will definetely be sought after to withstand the challenge of the southern ocean. Also, I really like the idea of going around in 'Chichester style' i e with the mecessary equipment onboard for a couple of draught bears a day. Chichester also had a substantial supply of Gin onboard. Those were the days, when Gentlemen could perform in 'Gentlemen's sports'   :)

Later it became known that he already suffered from cancer when he took off... grog to him!

[maxiSwede]

Magnus - "slipping behind"??? I think you are confusing that with "getting trounced by superior piloting and seamanship". ;D Giddyup! YEEHAH! lol

Hah!  See U in the roaring 40's AAArrrgh!  ;D

[dnice]

Here's a tip for squeezing out that extra 10th of a knot or so of boat speed.
right click and zoom in on the compass, its much easier to make those 1 degree adjustments, especially if you're on a laptop or using a trackpad or something (pretty useful on those downwind legs).

Jut in case nobody noticed.. they updated the software today,  and they put up a news bulletin about the ice gates. apparently as long you keep one point of the gate to starboard it counts. I assume that means you can pass completely to the north of the gates as well.

[CapnK]

Dear Magnus -

NO! Cape HOPE is on the OTHER side of the Atlantic. The one you are aimed at is Cape HORN. Turn to Port.

Signed:

Your Friend -

CapnK (the guy in that boat way up over there, towards the South and East)*





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*All of the above written in the full knowledge that I might yet eat those words, but still, so much fun is had in the meanwhile... ;D

Hey - is that an Albin Vega I see over there?  8)

[maxiSwede]

 ;D ;D

Dearest Kurt, I might eat wake for a looong time to follow.

But, I am actually following a guy who has SOME previous experience in this - and as a tactician too.

http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/voile/vendee-globe-challenge/blog/

If you want to see where he is right now (seemingly towards Cape Horn) try to find 'destremau'

Incidentally, I am pointing right at him now, while still at my morning cup of coffee.

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My onboard Bar facilities won't open until noon of course  ;D

[CapnK]

I noticed that guy when I first started, way out west, far far away from everyone else, and wondered what the heck he was doing over there... :) Interesting gamble! I guess the success of it will be completely contingent on catching a good low pressure or frontal system. Time to start looking at southern hemisphere weather forecasts, eh? :)

[maxiSwede]

He should definetely be one of those who DO have  a clue.

OTOH, he says on his blog that the present weather pattern is VERY unusual, with a BIG high and no lows in sight. Needless to say, if the expected low won't appear it will be 'a long way home'. He says that they 'always' take that route though.

I'll have a shot at it-   dec10-dec 16 I won't have access to internet anyway, so I will not be able to do the whole race...  :-\

see you in VOR ?  ;)

[Joe Pyrat]

I signed up but it might be tough to really stay on top of things from the boat.  I think I passed someone so I'm not in last, or at least I wasn't the last time I looked.  Guess I'd better pay it a visit.  :)  Boat name is Pyrat.

[dnice]

So, its a bit late in the game for this... but here are the general rules and prize information.
(translated by babelfish)

I'll sum it up :)
The course is dictated by the actual race...cheating is not allowed...first 25 players over the line gets a prize. (prizes listed at bottom)

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APPENDIX 1 - EQUIPMENTS

For 1st:
10.000 € (offered by Many Players)

1st with 5th:
1 Quirao purchase order of a value of 250 €
1 licence boat (value: 400€)
1 DVD the abyssals zone (value: 16.99€)

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1 Quirao purchase order of a value of 250 €
1 DVD the Abyssals zone (value: 16.99€)

11th with 17th:
1 DVD the Abyssals zone (value: 16.99€)
1 book of island in island (value: 39,90€)

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1 DVD the Abyssals zone (value: 16.99€)
1 universal calendar (value: 29,00€)

21st with 24th:
1 universal calendar (value: 29,00€)
1 book most beautiful cargo liners of the world

The 25th one with 27th:
1 book most beautiful cargo liners of the world 29,00€

[skylark]

It looks like a weather change is on its way, the westerlies which are currently down around 38S are predicted to rise up to 34S in the 36 hour forecast.  If you can get there in time, you can start running with the wind (I am looking at about 20W).  This would be a huge break if the forecasts are right.

[Bill NH]

I saw the same thing and am making a run for it.  If the forecast holds it should be a big boost to boats that can get through the variables in time! 

[Tim]

I'm hot on your tail Bill  ;)