Tehani is getting a bottom job

[CharlieJ]

Here's Tehani as she came out, after 3 1/2 years in the water- not bad huh?



Blocked up between a Bertram 37 and a Westsail 32- looks pretty small eh?



Some old guy hard at it with a flap sander-



and a very good looking lady, dressed up like the Michelin man- got CHILLY the second day-



We are happier and happier to be sailing a smaller boat ;D

Today I begin rolling on the coats of Interprotect , tomorrow the bottom paint . Hope to splash on Tuesday or Weds, weather permitting, but it's supposed to rain tomorrow.

[Marc]

Charlie, I sure do wish I had thos facilities and weather up here in Iowa, your boat is beautiful!!!  Marc

[AdriftAtSea]

Charlie-

Wrote this for another forum, don't know if it'll help you, but someone else might find it of value:

When barriercoating the bottom using Interprotect 2000E, alternating the colors helps a lot with determining where you've painted, but it is also very useful for helping you coat the areas around the boat stands. For instance:

The first layer is gray, since the gelcoat is white, and you can paint right up to the boat stand pads. Then you paint a layer of white, and leave about a two-inch margin of gray paint around the pads... then paint a layer a gray and leave a four-inch margin around the pads or about two-inches of white and two inches of gray showing...and then finish with a layer of white—with a six-inch margin around the pads—with two inches of gray, two inches of white and two inches of gray.

Then when you move the boat stands, you can fill in the pads and layer the paint accordingly... adding gray to cover the white square left by the pad.. then white to cover the gray square, and so on.

Also, by alternating colors, you can see if someone has sanded through the barrier coat when you're prepping the boat for re-painting. If there's an area that is gray or grayish, they've sanded through at least the outermost layer of barrier coat. If you had all white, you wouldn't be able to tell if they had sanded down through the barrier coat as easily—if you had all gray, you could tell they sanded through the barrier coat...but not if they've sanded into it...

[CharlieJ]

Same theory as in ablative bottom paint. Excellent idea. Unfortunately Laura bought the stuff from her store and I suspect it's all one color.

But again, it's an excellent idea. Painting around the pads is gonna drive me nuts on this one I think. Epoxy I filled with yesterday hasn't cured- too cool. So I'll have to sand that tomorrow and begin the barrier coats. Puts me a day behind and we are expecting rain tomorrow. SO I'll more than likely have to pay for extra days  >:(

Rather do that though than do a half way job- cost too much in money and effort to short cut anything.

[CapnK]

CJ - can you "tent" the bottom with some sheet plastic, and stick a heater in there to make things kick faster? It's a bit more expense and work, but less expensive than yard/day costs - at least, it would be here... I know you've probably thought of it already, too. :D

She looked great for 3 years of floating on her bottom! :) She sure picked a funny way to tell you it was time for new paint, tho... lol ;)

[AdriftAtSea]

Well, if the store isn't too far away, you might be able to swap a gallon of what you've got for the other color... :) Might not be perfect, but would certainly make cutting in around the boat stands much easier. :)

[CharlieJ]

lol-it's not far- she works there every day. But she bought all they had in stock.

Kurt- it'll be cured tomorrow, and I can get on with it. Daily hill charge isn't bad- $19 a day. We'll most likely stay in an extra 5 days anyway- due to Thanksgiving commitments. I'd have to be DONE by Tuesday or Weds AM at the latest to splash and get her back to her slip before Thanksgiving. And they don't run the Travel-lift on Fridays, weekends or Mondays.

[CapnK]

Wow - Only $19/day? That is a great deal! Yard cost is $75/day here for 'doityerselfers', and that doesn't include lift/splash or anything - just time in the stands. Of course, the Travelift runs Mon-Fri, maybe that is why... ;)

But that is a good price for this area - Charleston is even more expensive, and then most places there don't allow doityerself at all...

[Tim]

Wow - Only $19/day? That is a great deal! Yard cost is $75/day here for 'doityerselfers', and that doesn't include lift/splash or anything - just time in the stands. Of course, the Travelift runs Mon-Fri, maybe that is why... ;)

But that is a good price for this area - Charleston is even more expensive, and then most places there don't allow doityerself at all...

Ouch Kurt! Even in Sausalito yard time for the Ariel would be less than $40/day if I didn't by the paint from them $15 if I did.

[CapnK]

It's only $35/day if the yard is contracted for work on the boat, but the labor charge is $70/hour, so that makes the savings go away really fast. :)

[Tim]

The prices I quoted were for do it yourselfers

[CapnK]

Must be supply and demand - I would bet that there is some stiff competition over there, with plenty of yards. Here, in our quiet backwater ;) we don't have as many options. The yard gives great service, though, and they are kind when it comes to the billing. They aren't the type of folks to gouge you for every penny they can get. Which is vastly appreciated. :)

Wow, do we have this thread hijacked, or what? You'd think we were Somalian pirates, or something.... ;D

[CharlieJ]

Actually no. There is the one I'm in, which is 30 miles  by road-12 by water, away or two down south, 60 miles away.

Either of them allows DIY or you can hire work done by yard crew- your choice.

This yard where we are is charging me $400 for the lift, splash, insurance, rental of the pressure washer and 7 days hill time. They are much more comfortable hauling shrimp boats though;D

It's a pretty laid back place.

[AdriftAtSea]

Have fun Charlie.... Make sure you get Laura a nice full-face respirator... :)

I did all that last year... soooo much fun....

[CharlieJ]

Laura is working until Weds. I get to do all this by myself from here on in. She helped on Thursday and Friday -her weekend.

Been a long time since I had to do a job like this without my lady to assist me. OH BOY is it less fun this way!!

And I've got the full respirator from my furniture shop days, spraying furniture. I'll for sure have it on.

[AdriftAtSea]

LOL... Laura's a smart cookie... she left the grunt work to you after giving you the materials... :) 

Having two people to do a job like that makes it a lot simpler. 

[chris2998]

nice little boat now this maybe a dumb question but when a boat is on land is it really the full weight of the boat is resting on the keel and not the 4 or 5 little jack stands correct?? those are just to keep the boat from falling over.

[CharlieJ]

exactly- the blocking is all under the cast iron ballast. The jack stands just hold it upright. Can't put too much pressure on them ( on most boats) or you'll deform the hull. In the pictures the jack stands are positioned where bulkheads are inside the boat for that reason.

[Pappy Jack]

Jeeez you guys are lucky ::). I'd give anything if my boats' bottom was so easy to work on. It's a swing keel that sits on a trailer. It takes a paint roller with a two foot extension just to reach the middle :P. Oh well, next boat, right?

Fair winds,

Pappy Jack

P.S. That is a nice looking boat, BTW.

[AdriftAtSea]

Pappy Jack—

I have three hulls to paint... :) and a centerboard, with much the same problems as your swing keel. :)