Marieholm IF

[AdriftAtSea]

That sounds like a good boat and a fairly seaworthy one as well.  THe Mariholm 32 is a folkboat derivative...not a folkboat technically. There were many successful folkboat derivatives, like the contessas...

I'd highly recommend you read the Boat Inspection Trip Tips thread I started. :) It will help you figure out if the boat is worth going forward on.

I am looking at getting a Folkboat, but the only one i have found is the following add, and from everything I have read, I don't think the Folkboat was made 32'f. I could be wrong, or maybe the owner misclassified it, but if anyone could clear that up for me I would appreciate it. Also what are your thoughts solely based off this add (I've seen pictures and I would have it surveyed before I would buy it), is it a good deal or overpriced? I am not a complete newby to sailing but this will be my first boat so any advice is good advice for me:)

1975 Marieholm 32
(Aka The 32' Folkboat designed by Tord Sunden)

• All new standing and running rigging.
• Extensive work done on Md2B diesel engine.
• Autopilot
• New color Raymarine chart plotter
• New Garhaver blocks, boomvang, backstay and mainsheet.
• Six head sails, two mains and a Spinnaker.


The Marieholm 32 "Folkboat" represents good value for a boat capable of carrying two people around the world. Tord Sunden designs are sailing legends, the nautical equivalent of the German Volkswagon. Much admired for their heavy-weather performance, fabled sea keeping qualities and classic good looks.
Interior has teak everywhere, vinyl headliner and padded vinyl on the hull (Which acts as insulation).
For a full-keel boat, she is surprisingly fast and close-winded. Once you have sailed one of these boats, it becomes the measure of all other boats you may sail. The long-keel gives the boat good directional stability, and this, together with her zesty performance and her easy motion, makes her a sensible choice for a single-handed voyager or couple.
Asking $18,000

[michalex19]

Wow thank you for the great advice! I really appreciate you looking into this for me, it means a lot! I have posted the links below, hopefully you can get a lot of information from them.



Here is one of the adds for this boat

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/12540


This link is the same boat, but there are more pictures

http://de.boats.com/listing/gallery.jsp?entityid=20550601&mid=null&galleryBack=%2Flisting%2Fboat_details.jsp%3Fentityid%3D20550601&pic=14


Thanks again!

[michalex19]

Adrift, I actually had already read that thread you posted and made it a favorite! It's a great post, thank you for that! I've also looked at external sites to try to figure out exactly what it means if the wood is dry or wet, I mean I get it, but if it is dry is there just nothing you can do/or it's really expensive to fix? just curious as to exactly what that terminology means. Thanks adrift!

[Frank]

Probably off topic a bit...but check out the "Great Dane 28"  Talk about an enlarged folkboat in GRP. Very similar design...only you can stand up. A friend made 3 trans atlantics with his and still owns it after 35 years.

[maxiSwede]

That boat doesn't look bad at all from the pictures. Copuld be well worth having a closer look inte. Obviously the engine is an 'old beast' but it doesn't look bad... The condition of the sails is something to chek out of course and then calculate the costs for whatever equipment you'd want to add. For some extensive cruising I would consider a windlass and at least 50 m of chain necessary.... Good luck and keep us posted!  :D

@Frank

Yes, The *great dane 28' is (also) a nice folkboat derivative. Heavily built like a 'tank'.

BTW the Marieholm yard are known for good quality all in all, esp. teh GRP. The carpentry is quite simple in appearance and finish but usuallvery practical.  Just my 2 cents

[Bluenose]

I have always quite liked the Folkboat and its offspring's, especially the Mariehom IF and the Contessa. Obviously their biggest compromise is their lack of interior headroom. I do think of this as being a compromise and not what is "wrong" with them. All boat design choices result in compromises and pluses and minuses. Includeing standing headrom. You just don't get something for nothing.

In my way off thinking adding standing headrom to small boats came from a marketing demand based on customer's desires. This new "requirement" for small boat with standing headroom often resulted in higher freeboards and or coachroofs, lower and narrower cabin soles, higher booms, a higher vertical center of gravity & weight and increased windage. Some of these compromises, in my opinion, can have a negative effect on the sailing qualities of small boats.

I also think it is extremely difficult to pull off standing headroom in an aesthetically stunning manner on a small sailboat.

I understand the choice to have standing headroom I just don't always like the consequences.

[s/v Faith]

I also think it is extremely difficult to pull off standing headroom in an aesthetically stunning manner on a small sailboat.

How about this?





Frank's old Ariel #50 'Revival'

[Frank]

 ;)

[CharlieJ]

Or this? Our Meridian 25

[Bluenose]

Whoa! Hang on a minute guys and gals. I know we all love our boats and as someone who seriously considered buying Frank's Revival I see a lot to like in her. But please review my post. I said:

I also think it is extremely difficult to pull off standing headroom in an aesthetically stunning manner on a small sailboat.

I just happen to have a very, very high bar for aesthetically stunning. I am talking calendar boats here.





I certainly don't expect all boats to meet this bar or that the Ariel and others aren't beautiful well done boats. I just feel that the tiered cabintop of this genre was an aesthetic compromise. The designer's skill to overcome this varied in how successful they were.

Perhaps my view of stunning is whacked and certainly we all have our own idea of beauty. So I guess what I am trying to say is that I meant no disrespect when I voiced my opinion on standing headroom and the design consequences.

Cheers, Bill

edited to get my pictures back

[CharlieJ]

But I happen to love the "tiered" cabin tops. Brings to mind old classic wooden boats from the 30s and 40s. Many of the yachts featured in Beiser's "The Proper Yacht", have tiered cabin structures, and the yachts he shows are simply the loveliest as far as I can see.


Of course the boats I love best are the ones from the CCA era of late 50s through the 60s.. Boats that look as if they were designed to hang planks on, but were built in glass instead.

And I most definitely consider Tehani a proper Yacht ;D ;D

[TJim]

Me  too.  Looks like a bit smaller version of my Triton.  My Ranger 33, while it my have a lot of amenities that would be impossile to get aboard Tehani or Sirena, sails like a cork and is ugly by comparison.... TJ

[Bluenose]

But I happen to love the "tiered" cabin tops. Brings to mind old classic wooden boats from the 30s and 40s. Many of the yachts featured in Beiser's "The Proper Yacht", have tiered cabin structures, and the yachts he shows are simply the loveliest as far as I can see.


Of course the boats I love best are the ones from the CCA era of late 50s through the 60s.. Boats that look as if they were designed to hang planks on, but were built in glass instead.

And I most definitely consider Tehani a proper Yacht ;D ;D

Fair enough. And as I mentioned before my view of stunning beauty could be whacked.

Cheers, Bill

[Captain Smollett]

as I mentioned before my view of stunning beauty could be whacked.

Not 'whacked,' just YOUR taste.

To each his own, eh?

I know that looking around this marina I see some boats that "only a mother could love" (or, er, uh, the OWNER of said boat), but their owners have that dreamy eyed look when they see 'em.

[Frank]

I too love the tiered cabin top and looked for an electra (Alberg) to restore rather than an Alberg 22 by Nye yachts (also 22)which is more common up here. Again..to each his own. But to my eyes...there are a lot of very pretty boats in the 60's.    PS...we all just hijacked this thread...should start a new one on 'looks'  ;D