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Outfitting the 26' pearson Ariel

Started by lastgreatgeneration, December 21, 2012, 01:37:36 PM

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lastgreatgeneration

I thought I would keep this place lively and interesting. I have been buying a few things last few months. My anchor spliced to rope came today. I have 90' 5/16 G4 chain spliced to 160' 3 strand rope. The anchor is a Manson supreme 25# on a Kingston bow roller (BR-22L). The roller is 23.5" long, the first one I ordered was 2" too short and the rear of the anchor would have been resting on deck. I even measured the shank to make sure I ordered the right one, but it came up farther than expected. It cost some to send the first one back but it is wort it to get the right thing the first time. I also got (3) 3/8 forged shackles, but on the anchor side I could probably move up one more size and it would still fit. I thought I would mention all of this and the specifics on the bow roller, maybe it will help someone else decide on what they need or want to buy. There is surprisingly little information on what fits well when it comes to anchors.

I like the Kingston roller for the price, it has two rollers on the front which should distribute the load on each roller pin. I like that redundancy instead of just one roller having a single point of failure. And for the price too it couldn't be beat.




CharlieJ

Looks really nice. One point though-

When you are anchoring on chain, the load should NOT be on the rollers at all. You should get a chain hook to fit the chain, attached to a suitable length of nylon line, cleat that down and then let out a bit more chain, so the load is on the nylon. Stops the boat from jerking hard against the chain, but still leaves it there in case.

This pic shows my old hook,, also used to hold the anchor tight to the roller. I now have a new one, that isn't rusted :D
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

CharlieJ

Here's the new hook, with 25 feet of 1/2 nylon on it
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

s/v Faith

Great selection for an Ariel.  I have the same set up, and the Manson #25 is about perfect for cruising.  Mine held through a hurricane and has never once failed to set for me.  I have 60' of 5/16 ht chain, and the combination is pretty reasoable to raise by hand.

Great choice.

fwiw, my snubber attaches to a pad eye on the bow, near the waterline.  This has the advantage of allowing shorter scope for a given depth...  I described this system somewhere on this site, but am paying for data so will leave the search for someone else as an am currently on the hook in brewers bay st. Thomas.
Satisfaction is wanting what you already have.

skylark

Do you put the nylon rode through the chock or through the roller?
Paul

Southern Lake Michigan

CharlieJ

I put it through the chock, and cleat it on deck. That way I can adjust the length of snubber as needed. In a very quiet, well protected spot, I might only have 5-6 feet out. If in an exposed place,, and it's lumpy, I might have 20 feet out. It's purpose is to cancel out shock loading on the rode.. Don't use too thick a piece of nylon- it wants to be able to stretch. On Tehani, with her 7500 pounds loaded, 1/2 nylon was good. About the same size boat as the Ariel.
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

lastgreatgeneration

Quote from: CharlieJ on December 21, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Looks really nice. One point though-

When you are anchoring on chain, the load should NOT be on the rollers at all. You should get a chain hook to fit the chain, attached to a suitable length of nylon line, cleat that down and then let out a bit more chain, so the load is on the nylon. Stops the boat from jerking hard against the chain, but still leaves it there in case.

This pic shows my old hook,, also used to hold the anchor tight to the roller. I now have a new one, that isn't rusted :D

Are those dock cleats? Can I use them instead of the $80 a piece cleats? I was thinking about just installing a bollard with a 1/8 x 12x12 backing plate. I did get a snubber with some chafe protection. I will end up getting a smaller dockline and a chin hook. Good call.


CharlieJ

Yes, those are the dock cleats. They ain't standard!!!

I contend that most, if not all production boats have woefully inadequate cleats, so I always upgrade. Those are 12 inch bronze Herreshoff's, bolted through a big backing plate. If you can' t put at least two of your normal lines on a  cleat, it isn't big enough. The stern cleats on that boat are 8 inchers.

I don't have that boat anymore, but on my current 21 footer, here's the bow arrangement. Two 10 inch stainless Herreshoff's They are bolted through a pair of 12 inch x 1 1/2 inch x 1/4 inch aluminum bars running cross ways.

I do prefer the Herreshoff style cleat.
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

Tim

#8
Here is the new setup on "Mariah" with chafe plates on the toe next to the cleats.



The anchor rode will be bridled to both cleats snubbed to a bow eye as as on "Faith"
"Mariah" Pearson Ariel #331, "Chiquita" CD Typhoon, M/V "Wild Blue" C-Dory 25

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