Anchors, anchors again, & more anchors....

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s/v Faith

Quote from: Auspicious on January 17, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
It's too darn cold. I'm staying home and making lasagna tonight and baking bread tomorrow.

  Here is some grog to go with it.  (Chianti, goes well with lasagna).   ;D  I now know what I am having for dinner tonight.
Satisfaction is wanting what you already have.

Auspicious

The lasagna was great last night (hmm - probably in the wrong forum for this) and will have leftovers for lunch shortly.

Temperature is up to 37F now, and if it is even a bit warmer tomorrow I'll spend some time on the anchor.
S/V Auspicious
HR 40 - a little big for SailFar but my heart is on small boats
Chesapeake Bay

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Ancora Latina

Quote from: Joe Pyrat on December 19, 2008, 05:12:47 PM
Something you can store...  One of those fisherman anchors you can disassemble? 

One anchor that you can disassemble??

perhaps something similar to this?



João
Ancora Latina

Auspicious

Hello João! Welcome aboard.

I came very very close to purchasing a Raya Tempest. You may recall that you sent me a quote some months ago. Rocna made me an offer I simply could not pass up. I'd still really like to try a Raya on my boat. The design looks very promising. Perhaps someday.

sail fast, dave
S/V Auspicious
S/V Auspicious
HR 40 - a little big for SailFar but my heart is on small boats
Chesapeake Bay

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Rick Westlake

Oh, no.  And I'm shopping for a new anchor myself ...

The Raya Tempest looks like "um tal jeitinho" and would be perfect on a boat named Bossa Nova.

And the surfing at Barra da Lagoa ... could I bring it back as carry-on luggage? ;D

Ancora Latina


Rick Westlake

#186
I've been bugging João with questions about the Raya Tempest -  ???

The really neat part is that I believe it will fit in the bow anchor locker of my MacGregor 26X!   8)

So yeah, I'm ordering one - at about the same price as West Marine wants for a 10 kg Rocna, once you add the shipping.  (I'm not going to wait till my next visit to Brasil!)  This is probably a heck of a lot more anchor than I need - it could hold Bossa Nova in a Category 1 hurricane, according to João's figures - but the only thing that could be wrong with "too much anchor" is if you strain your back lifting it. At 7.5 kg that's not likely!

Um grande pinga a você, João! ;D

Dave, I'm moving the Bossa Nova from Mount Vernon to Annapolis this spring ... so maybe we can get together and you can see how the Raya Tempest is on a smaller boat.  (Grog to match - I make a serious caipirinha.)

Auspicious

Very cool Rick. Would like to see it.

I should be somewhere along Back Creek by April.
S/V Auspicious
HR 40 - a little big for SailFar but my heart is on small boats
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Beware cut and paste sailors.

Rick Westlake

And now the sad news:  The U.S. Postal Service has lost my new anchor. >:(  It got through Customs in Miami, and that's the last word on it.

I'm hoping that the USPS and Correios Brasil will sort this out so that neither João nor I will get stiffed.  But my hopes are fading ... slowly.  It's a sad shame that our USPS has slipped so far.

Maybe I should have gone down there and picked it up myself ...  8)

Ancora Latina

Somebody at the Customs liked the design! ;D

I'm very sorry for Rick and for the delay for receiving his anchor.
I was at the Post Office again today - still no news, and I don't believe we will have anymore news now..

Next week, I will start preparing a new anchor, but this time, I will send the blade and the shank separately.. less risks !  :-[

Auspicious

I have had shipments send to me for pick-up at Customs at BWI. That worked great.

Rick - I have a lot of schedule flexibility - I'd be happy to be your agent to pick up your anchor if you want to ship that way. Are you in Annapolis yet?

sail fast, dave
S/V Auspicious
S/V Auspicious
HR 40 - a little big for SailFar but my heart is on small boats
Chesapeake Bay

Beware cut and paste sailors.

Rick Westlake

Dave, I appreciate your offer - and "pick up at Customs @ BWI" sounds like a great idea.  Would that mean the USPS would keep the anchor moving as "bonded freight" until it arrived at BWI?

João, I hate to see you "stuck" for another anchor - and I'm feeling afraid that the "U.S. Snail" would lose one part or the other.  Correios Brasil has proven more trustworthy than the U.S. Postal Service and U.S. Customs -  :o >:( Maybe I ought to have you send it to my nephew and niece in Guarapuava, Paraná - and I could pick it up next time I visit them, although that won't be for quite a while....

Bossa Nova is now at Casa Rio Marina, up at the head of Cadle Creek - a tributary of the Rhode River, which branches off northward from the West River above Shadyside and Galesville.  She lives on her trailer there; they've got a good launching ramp, and it hasn't been too busy when I've been out sailing.  (Unfortunately, my Aunt Cinnie had abdominal surgery last week - I've made a point of visiting her every day, and that hasn't left me any time to go sailing.)

But when the time comes ... I still have a bottle of Ypioca Ouro, a bunch of thin-skinned limes, and I'm prepared to use them!

All the best, Rick

Rick Westlake

It has been a long time coming, but João came through - and this time, the USPS came through.  I have received my anchor - I guess this is the first "legal" Raya Tempest in the USA!  ;D ;D ;D

Taken apart, the anchor is shorter than a Fortress FX-11, and it fits neatly in the anchor locker of my MacGregor 26X (which was built for a Danforth S600).  Put together, it resembles a Manson Supreme without the roll-bar, but the shank is longer and "curved just so" (a "jeitinho Brasileiro", you might say).

Here are a couple of photos - taken apart, assembled, and beside my Fortress FX-11 (which will now be my backup anchor).

And "mais um pinga grande" to João, of Ancora Latina!  8)

s/v Faith

Dan,

  I know you like your Rocna, and I am glad it works for you.  This is not accurate though;

Quote from: AdriftAtSea on September 16, 2009, 10:00:20 AM
...BTW, the reason I went with a Rocna over the Manson Supreme is the because of the quality of the design.  The Manson Supreme's fluke is made of two thinner sheets of steel, which are edge-welded then have the edge weld ground down to shape the fluke, has the stock welded to one plate only, and then is hot-dip galvanized.  This means that the area between the plates is not galvanized and the only thing holding the stock to the larger plate is the ground down edge welding...  The fluke on the Rocna is a single, much heavier steel plate, and doesn't have the inherent design defects the Manson Supreme has IMHO....

  The curve of the Rocna (some of which are now being produced in China BTW) is slightly different then the Manson.  The fluke of the Manson is a single piece just like the Rocna.
Satisfaction is wanting what you already have.

Frank

Engels are great!  Simple and efficient...what more can ya ask. I've got the small one onboard but rarely use it and a larger one for the cottage. As to a lightwind sail, others may dissagree but I like a nylon 150. It is great for light wind days to weather and poles out down wind. While not as efficient as a spinnaker or DRS it will go to weather. I was trying to cover multiple bases for the least inventory figuring both storage and costs were important.
God made small boats for younger boys and older men

Auspicious

I like having lazy jacks. When everything is easy - lazy jacks or not - I drop the main in three stages and tie down each piece before lowering more. The greatest benefit of lazy jacks is being able to drop the whole thing without ending up with blocked views.

I spent the better part of a summer cruising the Chesapeake with a girl friend on a Catalina 22. I've been a spinnaker ho for decades and love that sail; she was - initially - less enamored. Over the course of that summer we used the spinnaker more and more often. As a result we motored less and sailed more in light air. I currently have a 1.5 oz asymmetric that will be supplemented with a .75oz symmetric.

If you aren't fully comfortable with the chute, spend some time racing other people's boats and build your skills and confidence.

No one I know out cruising has ever said "we have too many batteries." More is better.
S/V Auspicious
HR 40 - a little big for SailFar but my heart is on small boats
Chesapeake Bay

Beware cut and paste sailors.

CharlieJ

Just inventories our ice chest.. This after Laura has been aboard for nine weeks and me for six.

One half gal jug water, one half bottle Coke, two chunks cheese and some left over rice from last night.

NO condiments- none of those need to be kept cold.

As to the ice- block is definitly best but VERY hard to find at least so far. We found it in Gulfport and Pascagoula , Ms so far and in. Oth towns it was well out of walking distance. Crushed is a very poor choice and varies wildly in cost - from $4 down to $1 for a 17 pound bag.

Our intentions are to use the ice chest as extra food stowage space once we enter the keys and Bahamas. We both drink rum and water, unchilled and or room temp wine so that's no big deal.

On my previous boat I went with zero refrigeration for up to a year without missing it

of course, keeping that insulin viable is a whole different story. Good luck with it.
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

newt

"We both drink rum and water, unchilled"
I hope its more water than rum, but its your navigation:)
When I'm sailing I'm free and the earth does not bind me...

CharlieJ

Not to worry. On Tehani NO alcohol is consumed til the lines are on the dock or the anchor is firmly down. And if anchored, usually it's max of two drinks.

I don't like drunk boaters. Hey- I don't much like drunks.
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

AdriftAtSea

S/v Faith—

I'd point out that the Manson website says:

QuoteReinforced Double Skinned Laminated toe. Provides an extremely strong forward section of the anchor where the most loading is concentrated.

The fluke of the Manson Supreme is two pieces, as it is "Laminated".  The blade of the Rocna, at least the one I have is bent using a brake press, rather than just rolled, and due to the compound nature of the bend caused by the brake press is stronger than the rolled shape of the Manson Supreme.

Quote from: s/v Faith on September 16, 2009, 10:17:33 AM
Dan,

  I know you like your Rocna, and I am glad it works for you.  This is not accurate though;

Quote from: AdriftAtSea on September 16, 2009, 10:00:20 AM
...BTW, the reason I went with a Rocna over the Manson Supreme is the because of the quality of the design.  The Manson Supreme's fluke is made of two thinner sheets of steel, which are edge-welded then have the edge weld ground down to shape the fluke, has the stock welded to one plate only, and then is hot-dip galvanized.  This means that the area between the plates is not galvanized and the only thing holding the stock to the larger plate is the ground down edge welding...  The fluke on the Rocna is a single, much heavier steel plate, and doesn't have the inherent design defects the Manson Supreme has IMHO....

  The curve of the Rocna (some of which are now being produced in China BTW) is slightly different then the Manson.  The fluke of the Manson is a single piece just like the Rocna.
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