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Alberg 30 refit

Started by Cruiser2B, October 10, 2015, 07:26:43 AM

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Cruiser2B

Started a refit of my Alberg 30, progress has been slow but steady. My latest blog entry is about cutting and fitting new balsa core into lazarette area of deck.

Photos and write can be found on my blog

www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

SeaHusky

That is a big job! Hope you get the reward of a "new" boat at the end.
Perhaps you can find some inspiration here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDRrJ_udl7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4N1Fx_rvc
I look for subtle places, beaches, riversides and the ocean's lazy tides.
I don't want to be in races, I'm just along for the ride.

Cruiser2B

SeaHusky,
Those video are inspiring and definitely something to shoot for.
My Alberg was starting to show age in many areas. I figured if I spent 2-3years, $10k and lots of elbow grease I could potentially have a boat that is like new and in many ways better.
I will post progress as often as I make it. Right now I am gathering parts to refinish hatches and other parts inside for the winter.

Thanks,
Jason
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

SeaHusky

I look for subtle places, beaches, riversides and the ocean's lazy tides.
I don't want to be in races, I'm just along for the ride.

CharlieJ

Now THERE'S a blank slate!!!  ;)
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

Frank

You ARE a brave man!!!   Grog to ya 

But doing it right!!  :-)

Get creative with the interior.
I always found just sitting inside...contemplating...would get creative juises flowing.

As CJ stated....you truly do have a blank slate to start with

Think batteries, tankage, lounging and galley

HAVE FUN!!!!!
keep the pics coming as it progress's
God made small boats for younger boys and older men

Tim

"Mariah" Pearson Ariel #331, "Chiquita" CD Typhoon, M/V "Wild Blue" C-Dory 25

"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."
W.A. Ward

SeaHusky

Thanks for the comments!
Yes, sitting in the empty hull does give bursts of clarity about things I have been pondering.
Bravery indicates that I knew what I was getting into. This is just hubris.
But let?s not clutter Cruiser2B's thread! This is about his Alberg.
I have my own thread for my refit and will post my progress there.
I look for subtle places, beaches, riversides and the ocean's lazy tides.
I don't want to be in races, I'm just along for the ride.

Cruiser2B

a bit more progress on recoring of lazarette of our Alberg 30

http://www.svsalacia.blogspot.com/2015/11/alberrg-30-refit-lazarette-recoring-cont.html

Happy Thanksgiving!!

Good Job SeaHusky, looking good
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

Cruiser2B

More rotten core and more surprises...but some progress

http://svsalacia.blogspot.com/2015/11/alberg-30-refit-lazarette-nearing.html

Anyone else ever find 1/4 core?
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

Cruiser2B

Moved onto recoring the port side deck. The weather has been great..not sure how much longer it will hold out for outdoor boat work

http://svsalacia.blogspot.com/2015/12/alberg-30-refit-more-rotten-core-on.html
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

Frank

You certainly are "doing it right"!  Cheaper in the end as it will be better than new!!   "keep the faith"    :)
God made small boats for younger boys and older men

Cruiser2B

Thank you for Frank,

I am learning as I go. Thankfully many people before me documented their repairs. I am sorta just following what others have done. I thought about adding the G10 into the decks after another blogger used layers upon layer of fiberglass to accomplish the same thing.

I chose West systems epoxy because it is pretty much idiot proof with the pumps, far I have not messed it up! :P.

I am trying to do these repair in such a manner that I will never have to worry about them again. So far the decks, other than the fairing process, have not been too bad of a job. I fear glassing the toe rail, that seems like it is going to be a PITA ;D

Thank you for comments
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

Frank

I well remember being about where you are on my Electra restoration....
At times I felt overwhelmed and questioned my sanity....but it turned out fine.
Keep the faith.....it is a great boat...awesome design!!  It will take you anywhere when you're done!!
God made small boats for younger boys and older men

CharlieJ

SEVERAL of us have been there  ::) :P

Some us more than once!!
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

Godot

Regarding the West System Epoxy, I've used it, and it works great. It seems pretty expensive, though, compared to others.

I have also used a lot of the much cheaper RAKA epoxy (I'm a fan of the "no-blush" hardener). It also uses pumps (1:2 ratio), and seems quite forgiving. Only once did it not cure right, which I strongly suspect was do to my typically working on projects at three and four in the morning...I think I may have reversed the resin/hardener ratio. I haven't heard any complaints from System 3 or MAS epoxies either. I think you will find they will pretty much all do the job.
Adam
Bayfield 29 "Seeker"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

CharlieJ

I've pretty much quit using WEST due to the costs. Last five or six boats I built, I used epoxy from B and B Yacht Design. I can get a gallon of resin and a half gallon of Hardener, delivered, for what a gallon of resin costs from West.

I will point out this-if you are working in cool weather, West will cure much quicker than any of the 2-1 mixes. Have had some of those take 2-3 days to reach a workable cure, in temps below 60.

I've used  RAKA, MAS and SYS 3 in the past, with good success. Did have one bad experience with a particular batch of SYS 3,, but only the once.
Charlie J

Lindsey 21 Necessity


On Matagorda Bay
On the Redneck Riviera

Cruiser2B

#17
Guys,

Thank you for recommendations on epoxy. Truth is I get a very good discount on West system,  gallon of 105 and qt of 205/206 are slightly less than or right at $100. I can source it less than 2 blocks from my day job on my lunch break, very convenient.
I will consider the other brands should I find myself paying West Marine prices.
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail

Godot

RAKA 3 gallon kit=$168. It looks like UPS ground shipping *may* be included (it estimated shipping cost to my zipcode as $0...I'm not sure if that is right, though, as I paid more for shipping...reasonably priced...the last time I ordered).

The fast hardener worked well for me in cool weather; but tended to go off too quick in warm weather. The slow hardener works well in the summer. I probably still have a couple gallons in my storage area.
Adam
Bayfield 29 "Seeker"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

Cruiser2B

Godot,

$168 for 3 gallons is intriguing, do you have a link?
1976 Westsail 32 #514 Morning Sun
Preparing to get underway!!
USCG 100T Master Near Coastal with Inland Aux Sail