I'll be heding out monday morning

[hearsejr]

 I will be helping a friend bring his boat From FT lauderdale to Baltimore Wed. and we'll be off shore, so no wifi. I'll try and get pics of the trip.

[Namaste]

Wow, Hearsejr, what a great adventure!  What kind of vessel will you be sailing?  What type of rig? Are you going non-stop?  Offshore or ICW?



Fair winds to you and God bless!  :)

[hearsejr]

 I'm not sure of the make, but it's well equipped  44' cutter Named PROMISE out of Baltimore. I'll try and find the make this week end. lol.

[Auspicious]

Remember the fasted part of the Gulf Stream is where the temperature gradient is the steepest (thank you Professor Bohlen). Most modern depth sounders can give you water temperature, so switch the display to temperature once your past the safe water buoy and watch the numbers. Once the jump up and then level off you are in or just past the fastest current.

We got a boost of two to three knots for the better part of three days last week.

[hearsejr]

kewl
thanks.
come to think about it I remember the National Geographic had  an artical from the 60's about a boat sailing in a race and they took tempture reading by throwing a thermameter over the side. lol, they were going to bermud. I got to find that rag again. lol.

[Auspicious]

Read what Prof. Frank Bohlen has to offer here: http://bermudarace.com/DefaultPermissions/LogisticsResources/tabid/202/Default.aspx

[hearsejr]

kewl
I think I read the same thing in a magazine a while back...I'll get some first hand knoledge when I get out there.

[Captain Smollett]

Should be an interesting trip:

[s/v Faith]

Should be an interesting trip:

Oh man.. I hope they see this.

[Auspicious]

I just came up the East Coast with the same kind of weather pattern. The breezy bits are likely to be North and East closer to the low. For them, in the Gulf Stream it looks like SW 10 - 20 over the next few days.

[Captain Smollett]

I just came up the East Coast with the same kind of weather pattern. The breezy bits are likely to be North and East closer to the low. For them, in the Gulf Stream it looks like SW 10 - 20 over the next few days.

24 hr forecast issued today shows 15-20 kt from the NE in the stream, with highest 1/3 wave heights 6-9 ft.  Doesn't really shift to NW til bottom of the OBX or so.  Since Bill said they'd be leaving on Wednesday, it looks like a hard bash to windward.   ???



At least the gale hereabouts should be over.  Been blowing HARD here yesterday and today from the S and SW, forecast is to shift to NE later tonight.

Thursday looks a lot more docile, though.

Certainly looks like "Skipper's Choice" wx to me...   ;D

[Auspicious]

I love dueling weather images! *grin* My link will change with time so read fast!



I don't believe the wind/wave page. It's going to be light E shifting to 10-15 S to SW. Next beer is on me.

[Captain Smollett]

I love dueling weather images! *grin* My link will change with time so read fast!

;D ;D

(mine will probably change, too, btw)

I don't believe the wind/wave page. It's going to be light E shifting to 10-15 S to SW. Next beer is on me.

I saw that surface analysis and thought, "oh, that does not look so bad, now."  But, why ignore the wind/wave page?  Your read of the isobar separation/pressure gradient?  Personal experience that the wind/wave page is less accurate (this would be important to know)?

I would think the wind/wave page is based on the same models/forecaster intuition combinations that the forecast surface analysis is.  Indeed, the same forecaster is listed on both images.

I'm glad I posted this now...this could lead to a VERY interesting and informative discussion.  And yes, I know...perhaps I should take that class you discussed after all.   ::) ;D

On Edit:  gribs from passageweather.com for 1200 UTC on 7 Aprl are showing 15-20 from the N - NE., for what that's worth.  12-24 hr after that, they are more consistent with light E and trending SW.

This is fun...what will really be out there tomorrow?   ;D

[Auspicious]

I saw that surface analysis and thought, "oh, that does not look so bad, now."  But, why ignore the wind/wave page?  Your read of the isobar separation/pressure gradient?  Personal experience that the wind/wave page is less accurate (this would be important to know)?

I would think the wind/wave page is based on the same models/forecaster intuition combinations that the forecast surface analysis is.  Indeed, the same forecaster is listed on both images.

I didn't ignore the wind/wave page - just disagree with it. I use the synoptic chart as is with only a grain of salt because I'm not very good with the 500 millibar charts. I think the forecaster generating the wind/wave gave the L off New England more credit for rotation through the southern H than my experience supports.

Keeping track of the forecasters is a good thing. Some provide more detail than others, and some have better track records for accuracy than others.

[Captain Smollett]

Current 07:00 sea buoy data (actual read from instruments):

Cape Lookout:  Wind 15 kt NNW, gusting to 18 kt

Outer Onslow Bay:  15 kt N, gusting to 19 kt.

Diamond Shoals:  17 kt N, gusting to 21 kt.

41010 (offshore, central Florida): 15 kt NNE, gusting to 19 kt.

So, it looks like yesterday's 08:00 24 hr wind forecast was purty darn close.   ;)


As far as the trip goes, I guess it all depends on when they left/leave.  He did say leaving Wednesday, so things up here should be 'better' by the time they get here.

Fun exercise!   ;)

[hearsejr]

I made it and had a great time. the gulf stream calmed down and then got stormy in the upper NC / Va area, so we back tracked for 10 hrs and came up the ICW through NC.
the boat was a I.P. 44, and we made it to Baltimore in 8 days..including the half day we spent in reedville VA so Cliff could look his boat over.
Now I gotta get some sleep and catch a bus for NC sat. night. lol.

[Captain Smollett]

Cool beans, Bill.  Welcome back. 

[hearsejr]

Thanks...I am ready to go again! I had a blast..atleast till got on the gray heck bus to come home! more on that latter after I cool off a bit.