I've been quoting this all over the 'Net (including Tuesday's chat :) ):
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Satisfaction is wanting what you already have.
Man, what a great line. Now I should be able to remember who to credit it to. (sorry, I've just been saying "as seen on sailfar.net).
I saw Tim's signature on his Classic Plastic's forum (http://www.triton381.com/forum/index.php)
QuoteIt's not how many ideas you have...it's how many you make happen.
I like that. ;D
I was cleaning out old e-mails and came across this.I may well have stolen it here to send to a friend...if so..credit (and grog) to who ever posted it 1st.... but figure it is so good it's worthy of a possible re-post
"You can never get enough of what you don't need to make you happy." - Eric Hoffer
"Reduce the complexity of life by eliminating the needless wants of
life, and the labors of life reduce themselves." - Edwin Way Teale
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." - Leonardo DaVinci
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in
the opposite direction." - E.F. Schumacker
"We don't need to increase our goods nearly as much as we need to scale
down our wants. Not wanting something is as good as possessing it." -
Donald Horban
"The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the
necessary may speak." - Hans Hofmann, Introduction to the Bootstrap, 1993
"You know you have reached perfection of design not when you have nothing
more to add, but when you have nothing more to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
"Out of intense complexities, intense simplicities emerge." - Winston Churchill
Good stuff Frank.
I had not heard this one before;
Quote"Out of intense complexities, intense simplicities emerge." - Winston Churchill
Frank,
Words to live by. Here's a simple grog fer ya ;D ;D ;D.
Fair winds,
Pappy Jack
Just a quick ramble. I know and have delt with a lot of people in business over the years. In conversations..."ALL" reflect back at their happiest times being starting out. There was 'the challenge', but the rest of their life was very uncomplicated.There was no extra money to buy 'stuff'. Their time off was spent doing simple things that their meager funds allowed.As their business's grew..so did their responsibilities and their pocessions.Pocessioons grew...spare time diminished...often to the point of affording the pocessions...but not the time to use them.Ultimately..the pocessions owned them. ALL wish for a return to a 'simpler life' with more 'time' and less worries. In the end...thats all we really have is time.
I truely respect the Pardey's...not just for their sailing accomplishments, but more so for the concious choices they have made in their lives to NOT get too caught up in the material world...but to truely 'experience the world'.Their cruises have been open ended, unplanned and with lots of time to get to know other cultures along the way.Wealth and pocessions were'nt the concern.
In the end...who is 'wealthier' ?
Quote from: stardust/eric
if you get to do with your boat what I did with mine, that cant be replaced by all the money in the world
It may well be an exercise in the egocentric but when a huge power-polluter churns by with once a month users aboard, I often think of a line from,
Fuller:
Quote. . . nature hangs out a sign of simplicity in the face of a fool.
Edit to fix quote tag.
Just saw this one;
QuoteI prefer a sailboat to a motorboat, and it is my belief that boat sailing is a finer, more difficult, and sturdier art than running a motor.
--- Jack London
Quote from: s/v Faith on September 02, 2008, 03:22:43 PM
Just saw this one;
QuoteI prefer a sailboat to a motorboat, and it is my belief that boat sailing is a finer, more difficult, and sturdier art than running a motor.
--- Jack London
And here's a shot of the "Snark"
(http://www.huntington.org/LibraryDiv/LibraryPix/JackLondonsnark3.jpg)
No matter how tough of a situation you think you're in.....just imagine.....
"what would Ernest Shackleton do?"
He was the ultimate small boat voyager!
Too true;
"Be careful who you talk to about your sailing plans. Those who have abandoned their dreams will try to destroy yours."
--Anon
Faith,
I know what you mean. I told a few people about "The Scoot" and that I was planning to go on it. One said I should be on the look out for pirates(she was serious). I showed a chart to another. He noticed how deep the ocean is and asked,"aren't you afraid of deep water?". I said I was only conserened about the top 6' or so ::). And on it goes. If the nay sayers can talk you out of something you weren't probably motivated enough in the first place.
Fair winds,
Pappy Jack
"The years thunder by. The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience. Before you know it the tomb is sealed. Which shall it be, bankruptcy of purse or bankruptcy of life?"
Sterling Hayden (a great schoonerman long before he started acting)
"Wind is to us what money is to life on shore."
Not really small boat related, but one that has stuck with me since college. Found it written on a coffee stained napkin
"Love may not make the world go 'round, but its keeps your mind off the nausea caused by its spinning!"
Found this written inside a book of matches back in the 60's...
You only have two problems in life.
Are you sick or are you well?
If you are well you don't have any problems.
If you are sick you only have two problems.
Are you going to live or are you going to die?
If you are going to live you don't have any problems.
If you are going to die you only have two problems.
Are you going to heaven or heck?
If you are going to heaven you don't have any problems.
If you are going to heck you won't have time to have any problems,
you'll be too busy shaking hands with all your old friends.
Seen elsewhere;
QuoteWe shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
T.S. Eliot
Quote from: s/v Faith on March 11, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
Seen elsewhere;
QuoteWe shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
T.S. Eliot
This one I totally dig
Not a signature line, but I saw this quote today on a fishing forum. The quote came from an older fisherman that said it to the poster when he was about 10 years old.
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"When you learn from someone else, that knowledge does not belong to you, it belongs to the next person that needs it."
Just saw this on the Classic Plastic forum;
Quote"The more you know, the less you need."
Yvon Chouinard
;D
Quote from: s/v Faith on September 29, 2009, 10:14:06 PM
Just saw this on the Classic Plastic forum;
Quote"The more you know, the less you need."
Yvon Chouinard
;D
Definitely a "classic" quote from a very classy guy. A hero of mine from the old days.
I think there is a link between climbing in the 70's and sailors now. I run into so many old climbers (including my old partners) that now use a sail.
In a book I read recently, an author was a a party hosted at the estate of a business tycoon. As people commented on all the tycoon owned and deals he was making, the author calmly stated :
"I have something he will never have........'enough' "
Quote from: Frank on September 30, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
In a book I read recently, an author was a a party hosted at the estate of a business tycoon. As people commented on all the tycoon owned and deals he was making, the author calmly stated :
"I have something he will never have........'enough' "
Wonderful.
:)
Had a nice lunch with my nephew today. He works commission only sales, and took a phone call from one of his coworkers.
I over heard this line:
"Activity breeds results."
....one of my favorites.....
"live passionately, even if it kills you, because something is going to kill you anyway "
--Webb Chiles
Seen on a woodworking video:
"Whether you think you can
or
You think you can't
You are right"
Applies to sailing far, too.
Lot's of good ones from The Colonel, but here's one I especially like:
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
Quote from: newt on September 30, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
I think there is a link between climbing in the 70's and sailors now. I run into so many old climbers (including my old partners) that now use a sail.
There are definitely similarities. It's about figuring out what you really need.
Quote from: s/v Faith on November 07, 2008, 01:37:28 PM
Too true;
"Be careful who you talk to about your sailing plans. Those who have abandoned their dreams will try to destroy yours."
--Anon
Good thought, but hard to follow when you are new to sailing, and listening to the advice of those who have many years of experience. It seems that it would not be good to throw all caution to the wind, and ignore them. How do you find the balance point? I guess the key point is, "be careful who you talk to."
Quote from: s/v Emerald Tide on April 04, 2012, 08:04:38 PM
Good thought, but hard to follow when you are new to sailing, and listening to the advice of those who have many years of experience. It seems that it would not be good to throw all caution to the wind, and ignore them. How do you find the balance point? I guess the key point is, "be careful who you talk to."
That is, indeed, the trick.
One of the biggest problems is that there are people that "talk" and everyone listens, without regard to whether that person actually knows anything or not. We had such a fellow at our marina (the one across the river from you); actually, several such someones.
One example was a fellow that by his own admission, was "afraid" to sail his Island Packet because he did not want to damage her. Yet other times, he would sit around and give "free advice" on going to sea to folks passing through.
Another guy was just a core "social" person...he was a fun guy and people liked to party with him. He NEVER sailed (I heard him tell a lady once that putting the sails up was too much trouble), and his idea of cruising was what bars and parties to to visit. Yes, his keel covered some miles to get to the parties, but his seamanship was virtually zero.
He could not do a single thing without about 8 people standing around helping. Change slips in the marina? It was a an all-day affair of planning and execution and post-incident briefing involving teams of "worshipers."
He once told me that it is his habit to call for Sea Tow whenever he feels "uncomfortable" on his boat....on those rough seas on the ICW between here and Florida. That is, after all, why he carries tow insurance.
In three years of living at that marina, I never once saw him take out his boat for a pleasure sail. He left for the islands and was gone a few months, and heard from others that they had seen him in Florida holed up with engine troubles (he had had his engine rebuilt before he left), so he DID travel. But he was no sailor - at least in my opinion.
Yet this guy could sit around and "offer advice" for hours on end and EVERYONE would soak it up. They'd quote him, they'd pass it along. Most of what he said was poop, pure and simple. He knew NOTHING of sailing a boat, even though he had "lived aboard" for decades. Through the "fun personality," however, he was seen as the local expert.
In contrast, one 'cranky' old fellow I talked a lot with was very knowledgeable, and knew sailing. He and I talked endless hours late into the night about sailing experiences, weather tricks (heavy and light), different rigs, different boats, etc.
It's hard to filter all this out, especially if the person is likable. I've gotten to where I believe I can sniff out real sea-experience from bs, and I've gotten EXTREMELY choosy in who I listen, or even talk, to about sailing and boating.
In general, if someone is telling you about some piece of gear you NEED or should rely on, they are probably full of garbage. Reliance on gear often (not always, but often) can be equated with a lack of skill. When someone starts telling you what you SHOULD HAVE on YOUR boat, beware.
To tell the truth, I've also gotten quite wary of people that the first thing they tell me about a monohull, displacement sailing vessel is that she's "fast." I recently had an interesting conversation with a colleague about boats and hull design where "fast" seemed to be a central theme.
Here's the contrast: If I equate hull speed on my A-30 to a car going 55 mph, his idea of "fast" equates only to 67 mph. Yes, it's faster. But that much? Really?
My big point with him, among a few others, was that I don't prioritize "fast" the same way he does (and gave my reasons). He seemed to be saying that I was making stupid decisions because I did not choose a "fast" boat.
Yep, that gives me pause in how much merit I'm going to put into the rest that he says.
So, maybe I've become the jerk with my adopted position of assuming the other guy knows Little To Nothing Until Proven Otherwise. There's a lot of "armchair sailors" with NO seatime at all spouting off all kinds of stuff.
As they say, there's a difference in 10 years of experience verses 1 year practiced 10 times.
Sorry so long; your post just struck a nerve since I know I've faced the "who do you listen to" dilemma.
And making this on-topic for this thread...this is one of the reasons I love THIS site...it has been from the very beginning for me positive and encouraging. It has been a place to talk about boats and boating and finding the path to the dream.
The signature lines quoted are part of that positive encouragement.
:D
And then there's people like me-
who started sailing in 1957 and am STILL learning, after all these years. Been doing rope work since I was 11 and not too many years ago had a complete novice show me a faster way to tie a knot I'd used for YEARS. Ya think I didn't listen and learn?
:D
Oh and one piece of gear you NEED to rely on is- drumroll please- a GOOD anchor and rode- your choice as to type ;D
Quote from: CharlieJ on April 05, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
Oh and one piece of gear you NEED to rely on is- drumroll please- a GOOD anchor and rode- your choice as to type ;D
Well, okay..,.,. ;D Maybe modify my statement to when those recommendation become too specific...like "you NEED 23.4 feet of BBB chain and NOTHING else will do." I've heard that kind of thing said.
Your point about always learning is EXCELLENT. I like to tell new sailors that the basics of sailing are easy...you can learn it in a day. But then you spend the rest of your life getting better.
I learn something EVERY time I go on the water. Every single time, no matter what boat. I'm TRYING to get my children to understand this...and they've taken to asking me "okay, so what did YOU learn today?"
It does get hard to filter "good info" from the bad....and whether the person giving it is a seasoned pro or newbie is immaterial. Some "experienced" people give consistently bad advice, though.
For the Newbie, how to spot them? Any easy way to tell?
Quote from: Captain Smollett on April 05, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
For the Newbie, how to spot them? Any easy way to tell?
Sorry no, other than the real blowhards, who are pretty simple to spot in any arena. Wish there were :D
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."
W.A. Ward
My current email signature line
A sailing friend changes his email signature from time to time and he uses some really good ones.
Currently (and I nod toward the naysayer thread):
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"Everybody is a genius.
But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree,
it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." AE
Seen on an off-roader forum, and thought it applies to sailing far in small boats (and a bunch of other stuff as well)"
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Price is soon forgotton, quality is not.
One of my favs, but can't remember who to give credit to---
There are two great rules in life: Never tell everything all at once.
Quote from: Porter Wayfare on April 04, 2013, 08:18:20 AM
There are two great rules in life: Never tell everything all at once.
---Ken Venturi
Thanks for the attribution. It is far too good to go uncredited.
A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
"In every life there is a terrible fight ? a fight between two wolves.
One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."
(Seen on a Sci Fi show's discussion forum, and I absolutely love it!)
One of my favorites ....
"I was born with nuthin, and I still have plenty left"
( The man that knows everything has no room to learn anything! )