once again hurricane season draws near.it doesnt mean a thing to those of you on the western seaboard, but my memories conjure up visions of my boat floating amongst the debris of the marina that has yet to be rebuilt from 2004.2005 destroyed what was left of it.I am still in the healing process of thyroid cancer and have not been able to do much to the boat but it is infact in a much safer place.....well inland in a very small parcel of water(no fetch) surrounded by buildings on 3 sides(protected from wind) absolutely no new damage from 2005,but who is doing what to prepair for this year's storms......now I want to hear from everyone on the east and gulf coasts.....this is NOT to be taken lightely....everyone answer at the same time-----
I am changing my hurricane plan.
Last year I remained in the slip for 'Slow moving Ophelia' as my insurance coverage has me listed as staying there (or moving the boat on the hard, which is impractical).
I now will anchor in a somewhat protected hurricane hole.
The change has come from study of successful boats riding out storms, and I think 'Faith' will fare much better if allowed to fight the storm on her own, without having to fend off other boats and hard edges of docks.
I have 300' of 5/8 three strand, which will connect to the bow via a bridle.
My 'storm anchor' is a #17 danforth, with 10' of chain shackled to the eye of a #25 CQR on 50' of chain.
Looking at some fancy 'new generation' anchors. OBTW, if you want a good discussion on the ROCNA, the Madison Supreme, and the SARACA with the designers and sales reps debating them take a look at The discussion on 'New generation' anchors on the Pearson Ariel page. (http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/showthread.php?p=11991#post11991)
Faith, I just attended some seminars at the Miami Boat show. Regarding anchors... Pam Walls has done extensive cruising. She said she dragged all over anchorages for years while using her CQR. Stated it is no longer even carried on their boat. Speaks very highly of the Delta .... weighted end on pointed nose. States it digs right in, no spongy line feeling, very little backdown needed to set. She swears by it. She has spent lots of time in the Bahamas too and that is what she uses there. Stated if she had to pick 1 anchor, the Delta would be it. She also has a High Tensile Fortress on board too as well as some others depending on need.
I agree with getting off the dock. Seen too many boats really damaged from being on a dock. I anchor mine off the dock now. I feel like she has a better chance. Try to be on the windward side of the other boats; of course when the wind changes.... :o I am not looking forward to the "season" ::)
looks like I will be watchin the storm festivities from the las vegas strip-----watch for my new website DROVEFARDAT(DOT)CAR hmmmmmmm----lessseeeee---got my gps---got my altimeter(fer goin over the rockies) got cruise control----but no self steering.atleast I can stop off----for a 'burger-n-fries
Just know eric....
That wind vane does not work too well on the interstate.... :)
naaa naaa naaa my boat is on a trailer and I can get it to the mountains right before the storm gets here...lolololol
wind vane was and still is in the trunk of the car...the gps was gr8 fun the whole time.
Are you battened down for Ernesto?
Five Day Cone from NHC as of today (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/174823.shtml?5day)
Well I did my little Voodoo/Conch dance (grew up in the Keys and the Louisiana bayous), and sent Ernesto on easterly for you fine folks to enjoy...
But it is a little soon to make boating plans for Wednesday ::)
Quote from: Adam on August 28, 2006, 04:24:42 PM
But it is a little soon to make boating plans for Wednesday ::)
Aren't you supposed to be making a trip this week? A-hem.
I'd think you would have tried to send that storm back out to sea or something with your VooDoo. ;D
Friday, I go up to bring my boat home :)
And I don't try use the BIG voodoo, just nudge things here and there!
I'm not too worried about it...I have my personal weather goddess looking out for her namesake. My boat is named for a weather goddess. :D
Watching it close. I am canceling a business trip to Jacksonville for Wed. Would prefer to not drive 3 hrs each way in heavy rains. Keeping my fingers crossed that all my Atlantic buds are safe at harbor.
Adam, good luck. You might have plenty of wind. ::)
Kurt,
Looks like it is headed your way now.... at least you will not have to take your sails down.
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Who *is* this "Ernesto" fella y'all are talking about???
??? ??? ???
Got my FEMA forms all filled out, so that after the storm I can be first in line. Look for me on CNN... ;) :D
Seriously, though - Guess this means I have to take down my laddermast... ::) Haven't yet decided - haven't needed to - whether or when to head upriver and find a comfy lil spot to hunker down in. Will be doing some prep for that later today, though, CYA and all that. If'n it looks bad enough, will take supplies and provisions for a few days. Probably put the CrewDogs up at my sisters house. I guess it'll depend on how well the storm holds together across Florida before reemerging out onto the Gulf Stream.
Maybe I should do a "Cap'n Dan" from Forrest Gump, go to sea while lashed to the mast, and get in some experience that might come in handy down around Cape Horn some day... ;D ;D ;D
Good luck to all in/around the path!
How about a "hurricane party" in the chat tonight? :)
Hey brother,
Quotego to sea while lashed to the mast,
Hate to tell you this, but ya gotta have one to do that......
... I am thinking you are outta luck right now on that 1965 Pearson Ariel P o w e r boat.... :D
Quote from: s/v Faith on August 29, 2006, 02:41:21 PM
Hey brother,
Quotego to sea while lashed to the mast,
Hate to tell you this, but ya gotta have one to do that......
... I am thinking you are outta luck right now on that 1965 Pearson Ariel P o w e r boat.... :D
Ahh, yer jus' jealous of
Katie's open bulkhead!!! :P
;D
(I do have a laddermast... 8))
QuoteAhh, yer jus' jealous of Katie's open bulkhead!!!
(I do have a laddermast... )
Guilty as charged..... :P
Hope it fizzles out before either of us (or anyone else) has to deal with it.
Quote from: s/v Faith on August 29, 2006, 03:02:06 PM
Hope it fizzles out before either of us (or anyone else) has to deal with it.
At least the forecast has been downgraded since yesterday. Yesterdays forecasts had it becoming hurricane strength after getting back over the water after FL; today's all say TS until over NC/VA where it drops to TD.
Figures what's left of Ernesto it will be up my way on Saturday when I'm supposed to pick up my boat. Looks like a big wash out is in store for the Jersey Shore this Labor Day weekend. :-\
Best wishes to you folk down south!
-Kevin
Well, if you believe the news, we're getting pounded down here in Key West...
It's actually just been hours of drizzle... but they're hyping it up. I'm sure it's stronger up the Keys, but it's not that big a deal for us...
It's one of "those" situations...
The last 3 or four forecasts have had the center passing within a few miles of here, if not directly overhead. I feel like:
If I go up the river and dig in somewhere, the storm will stay pretty weak, not restrengthen much when it comes back off Florida, and be mostly a rain event that I spent a whole day avoiding. ::) :-\
If I stay in the marina, just off the coast it'll 'unexpectedly' blow up into a Cat 2 or more howling monster that'll set some kinds of records, like "the most complete yet narrow swath of destruction we've seen since (fill in some date from pre-1960)". ;D
Will just have to watch and see what develops today, while getting ready for the 'unexpected'. It's holding together fairly well, and now the forecasters are starting to pepper the discussions with talk of it staying that way, and strengthening once it gets back out to sea. This is called "hedging your bet", I think... :)
Glad it was a non-event for you, Adam!
What a day! :) Last night, storm prep lasted until 1 AM, and then I was too keyed up to fall asleep until almost 3 AM. Slept restlessly, woken a few times by various things (like the neighbors inquisitive cat coming into the cabin and meowing me awake @ 6 AM) until about 7:30 AM, when I heard a loud crash on deck.
Jumped up to see that one of my tarp supports had fallen over, and that had scared crewdog Molly. The dock neighbors cat was involved, I saw it running away from the boat. Molly jumped ship, and by the time I got on deck I saw her heading up the ramp by the ship store, going toward the parking lot.
By the time I reset the tarp, hopped on the bike, and got up there, she was nowhere in sight. I looked all over and called for her, no luck. After searching for a while in a half-mile radius, calling and looking and tripling back over everywhere, I gave up. I was too tired to put up with it, & I figured that if the Good Deity intended for her to be a CrewDog any longer, she'd be back, so I went back to the boat and crashed.
That may sound callous, but I was exhausted, fed up, she's is a smart dog, and if she didn't want to be here, than I'd let her to her fate. In short, she picked the wrong time to be a 'bad dog', the Capn wasn't dealing with mutinous crew, no matter how much he loves 'em... :)
The cat-owning dock neighbors - who knew by now the root cause of all this - found her about 9 and cajoled her back down to the boat. I was asleep when she came back aboard.
I woke up again around noon-thirty, made coffee and returned some phone calls, and then finished storm preps. Everything was good to go by 2:30 as the rain became constant. It huffed and it puffed, but it didn't blow the marina down, although it did damage a few docks and boats. The worst of the storm was over by about 8:30 PM, when I stretched out in the bunk for a little brief R&R.
I woke up from that at about 3AM ;D , so here are some videos I shot during the day for y'all to enjoy (click the pics). Taken from a slot between the companionway boards, looking east, probably around 4-4:30 this afternoon. They are .avi files, about 3.7M each. Enjoy!
(http://sailfar.net/video/MVI_4216.jpg) (http://sailfar.net/video/MVI_4216.AVI) (http://sailfar.net/video/MVI_4219.jpg) (http://sailfar.net/video/MVI_4219.AVI)
Dan, thanks for putting in the good words! :)
Any time Capn' K. BTW, is that a sunsei solar panel I see on your boat??? I have two of the 130 W models... they rock.
It was a dark and stormy night.....
But s/v Faith came through just fine also.
The water is still up about 4 feet in the marina, and I fear it will rise some more.... the dock house is in real danger.
Couple bimminis torn up (those who elected not to take them down) and some other minor stuff, but thankfully all is well.
Unfortunately, I posted too soon. :(
Turns out the marina right across the river from me (about 4 miles away) had a much worse time of it. Looks like a tornado came through there. :o
One boat sunk, several filled with water (sitting on the bottom, but gunwales above the waterline) couple of boats holed, several damaged and one 40 yards up on the shore. These are friends of mine, boats in my club, that I race with. :'(
They have fixed docks, and usually require all boats to leave the marina for hurricanes, but I guess they did not since this was just a tropical depression'. You can never be too careful.
Do you have a good storm plan? If not, please consider what you will do, and get it ready.
Some pictures;
http://raggedpointyachtclub.sytes.net/Pictures/2006/Hurricane_Ernesto/
That is Peter surveying the dammage in pic #1
(bigger pics will be available soon)
The bigger versions of the pictures don't seem to be loading... :(
Quote from: s/v Faith on September 07, 2006, 09:59:18 AM
Some pictures;
http://raggedpointyachtclub.sytes.net/Pictures/2006/Hurricane_Ernesto/
That is Peter surveying the dammage in pic #1
(bigger pics will be available soon)
LOL... missed tht part of your post... ;)
I hope NOEL goes easy on all that remain in his path (and prayers for the DR).
Craig, Connie, Sarah (wherever you are), keep a weather eye open.
Hope you guys see calm seas, or at least a nice, sheltered cove.
Time to sit up and start paying attention, I reckon, and get those hurlicane preps underway, make sure that the boat is ready for an 'evacuation', and - worst case - a stay of days to possibly weeks anchored elsewhere...
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200802_5day.html#a_topad
G G Good Luck Will be watchin' and hopin' for the best :o
That's just great. >:(
Not good timing, for me, there Bertha! You could wait a month or two, and my boat might possibly be in a MUCH safer place.
Errrrggggghhhhhh.
in the last few years I didn't worry too much, but now I have a boat that I cann't keep in my yard so I starting getting edgy
and we are about 100 miles north of the northern fringe expected. I would have expected Storm warnings, but here's what's up here-
(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1216759769.jpg)
That hoist says "hurricane". NOT one of my favorite flag signals.
Here's what the bay looks like at the moment, over 24 hours prior to expected landfall, several hundred miles SOUTHWEST of us.
(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1216759932.jpg)
Here's our forecast ( guess?) for tonight-
Late Afternoon: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 94. Heat index values as high as 101. East wind around 16 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph.
Tonight: A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 78. East wind between 11 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph
Here's what it's REALLY doing right now-
Wind Speed: SE 25 G 33 MPH
Copied from the same page ;D
Way out over the gulf you can now begin to see the outer bands of Dolly. We should only get the fringe, with 35- 40 mph winds ( I hope)
Laura is going to the marina when she gets off work to be sure of chafing gear and add some extra lashings to the sail cover- maybe take down the bimini. I've got stuff picked up, loose gear lashed down, etc. Should be an easy ride for us. Hope Brownsville doesn't get clobbered TO badly.
We are praying for you up here in Iowa. good luck, Marc
Hope Laura,you and your boats did OK with the winds.Any update?
Heard from Charliej?
They are fine, Grime posted some local photos on TSBB, maybe he'll share here.
Quote from: polecat on July 26, 2008, 10:47:58 PM
Heard from Charliej?
Hi Jim -
I spoke with CJ briefly today. He and L are both fine. He said they only got 8/10th of an inch of rain out of the whole storm.
I reminded him to be careful about what he wishes for. ;D
Good news - Thanks - I was down to the general store the other day and they said someone saw a raindrop hit the ground out west of town but other than that --- the drought continues & the lakes are shrinking.
jim
Oh yes - I'd like to know of any other Sailfar folks along the Texas coast. Is there a list that members can get to?
No set list... I'll set up a Frappr map or something...
Thanks for asking.
Most we got wind wise was about 35 knots. Laura went down ahead of time, lashed the sail cover tightly to the boom, took down the solar panel and folded the bimini and lashed that. Added an extra stern line on the weather side. Also added a couple extra lines to David ( Grime's) boat
We spent the night aboard the day the storm came ashore, just to be sure- NE winds kinda make our marina bumpy so we wanted to be on hand should it be needed. Water in the marina got about 2 feet above normal- hard easterly and southerly winds tend to do that.
Here's a link to the post David made on TSBB with his pictures. In the last pic of the marina, his boat is the first one in the foreground and just about an inch in on the right hand edge you can jsut see Tehani's bright finished mast. The water is Matagorda Bay
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/trailersailor/index.cgi?read=646098
How are you guys doing down there? Are our sail-farers doing OK? Anything we can do to help?
Just worried about my adopted homeland...
It is getting pretty soggy down there... :)
Best wishes to Pcola sailors. Batten down looks like you might be in the 'bad' quadrant of Gustav.
P'cola??? Hey- looks like P'cola will get a miss from Gustav. More and more looks like he's coming to visit OUR neighborhood.
YIKES!!!!
This thing just looks more and more scary with each passing forecast. Sounds like Cat 5 is right around the corner, hopefully it will loose some steam before it comes ashore......
The track has stayed pretty constant, heading to Louisanna.... Hopefully you will be on the weaker side CJ. THey say it is a strong storm, but the hurricane force winds are only expected to extend 75 miles from the eye.
While we are supposed to be on teh strong side, it appears we will be far enough away to escape all but the TS force winds and some rain. We will go down and add a third set of lines tomorrow.
I hope everyone will offer up a prayer, or good thoughts to those in the path of this terrible storm. :(
Our prayers will be with you, and LA. I can't believe they are getting hit again.
OUr problem is that we have so many sailing friends scattered along the Gulf coast that anytime we are wishing a storm like this AWAY from us, we are wishing it onto friends SOMEWHERE.
We have sailing friends on Galveston Bay, Beaumont, Vermillion Bay (Looks like ground zero), NOLA, ALL along the north shore of Lake Pontchantrain, Gulfport, Passcagoula, Pensacola, Bradenton, Punta Gorda- just all along the third coast.
So we have a hard time with a landfall ANYWHERE.
Same thing for the East coast- all along there, from Hollywood up into the Chesapeake we have sailing friends.
So we just keep our fingers crossed and hope they all survive ok.
So far so good- none of our friends has lost the boat. Several have had serious home damage, but only two had family members who got wiped out
I HATE Hurricanes!!!
Our prayers go out to you and everbody in Gustav's path. I hope that FEMA is better prepared this time ??? ::).
Fair winds, not hurricane wins, and full sails
Pappy Jack
I'm about 60 miles inland of the MS coast. (Hattiesburg)
Today there was an influx of Red Cross trucks coming from the north as well as evacuee's coming from the south.
It seems that most coastal cities are far more prepared, maybe even over-doing it, this time around. I'm sure thats a good thing....
I was in NOLA when Katrina hit, and I've been in (guessing) around 10 hurricanes in my lifetime. But even sitting comfy inland, I still feel that sense of anxiety. Expecting the worse, hoping for the best, for everyone involved.
I have sailing friends in south FLA who have by now, took fay, handled gustav, and are preparing for hanna! Just another season in the Gulf!
I don't have any advice for anyone, except get out!, but really, I hope all of the sailfar.net folks and friends fair well this season.
Anyway, I'll report here after the storm has passed, (wednsday?) for anyone interested.
It looks like Gustav mellowed, Hanna coming and Ike is forming up in the gulf. If anyone wants to come to Utah, you welcome to stay here!
The word about H******* is to be prepaired and know when to leave and where to.
I do not want to be in one on a boat at anchor.
Watch out Kurt & John, looks like this one is heading your way. :(
(http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/upload/8/forecast.gif)
Looks like the folks in the Bahamas are in for a bit of a ride... :o
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT08/refresh/AL0808W5+gif/144212W_sm.gif)
Don't much care for the path Ike is on either...
... Is it Novemebr yet?
(http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/upload/9/models.gif)
Just got the latest email from Connie- they are all battened down at Sampsons Cay, with 4 anchors out and feel fairly secure. Keeping my fingers crossed for her.
I don't like Ike this time either. In the 50s 'I like Ike" was a neat campaign slogan.
Ike looks like it could easily come into the GOM and come this way. I'd rather it didn't. Too bad they can't all just turn up the Atlantic and blow themselves out. Wishful thinking I know.
Oh well, Laura brought home 12 sheet of 1/2 ply the other day , pre-Gustav, so we have boarding up stuff on hand.
Will be watching! I have a few friends from trips down there now hopin' for the best
Right now, I'm keeping a close eye on Hannah. The plan at the moment is for me to run down tomorrow, finish the last minute repairs, get in the water and be ready to make a run up-River sometime on Thursday.
If the 11 am forecast track is any good at all, that SHOULD give me time.
I really don't like the timing on this one. :o
Don't get bent out of shape to soon. The "Land" of the Bahamas should lessen it some. After it hits shore it will go down quite a bit and be a bad storm.
Expect lots of tree pruning that will wind up in the rivers.
Quote from: Lynx on September 02, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Don't get bent out of shape to soon. The "Land" of the Bahamas should lessen it some. After it hits shore it will go down quite a bit and be a bad storm.
Yep. The NE quadrant of a Cat 3 hurricane is a "bad storm."
There's a lot of Gulf Stream warmed seawater between the islands and the SC coast, and she is expected to re-intensify in 12-24 hours, depending on what happens with that upper level shear. Of course, contrary to conventional wisdom and the intensification models, Hannah popped up to hurricane strength yesterday DESPITE a 30 knot vertical shear. That's pretty rare.
Between THAT fact and how slow/wobbly her net movement is, she is defying the models and undermining forecasting confidence. That's very common with slow moving storms with ill-defined steering currents. The NHC is filling ALL of their "Discussion" products with language that essentially says "confidence in these forecasts, essentially intensity forecasts, for this system is very low."
The last time I saw a storm behaving like Hannah, that I recall at least, is Mitch. And though initially thought to be of little danger while tooling around the Eastern Atlantic, he stalled, jogged and grew (overnight) into a Cat 5 that killed well over 20,000 people.
So, I'm keeping an eye on this storm very carefully. Though I'm not thinking Hannah is another Mitch, she may pack a serious punch to the Eastern US yet.
QuoteSo, I'm keeping an eye on this storm very carefully.
Where I live there is a name for that,
"Wisdom".
Glad to read CJ post;
QuoteRain? What's that?
Actually we've had some in the last three weeks. Got 4 inches a couple weeks ago, but nothing from Gustav- we're too far away. Had north winds off of it today but the temps still hit 100.
Still have cracks in the ground here and there .
Faith is fine, a boat a few slips down had a torn foresail but that was all i saw. One of the marinas had some flooding in the parking lot.
Link to watch the progress http://www.tenspider-weather.net/tropical-storm/tropical-cyclone-tracking.html#north-atlantic-hurricanes
Quote from: s/v Faith on September 02, 2008, 06:42:46 PM
QuoteSo, I'm keeping an eye on this storm very carefully.
Where I live there is a name for that,
"Wisdom".
Looking at the spaghetti model, I think pretty much anyone on the east coast would be wise to keep an eye on this one....
(http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/upload/8/models.gif)
(Of course this image will update just as the others posted above it....)
Just experimenting with the current spaghetti model
Cat IV!
Man I hope this thing stays out to sea!
(http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/upload/9/forecast.gif)
Just checking in real quick-like. Been a LONG day! :) Hanna is due S of here, moving due N last update (@ 2PM), but the 5PMupdate is due any minute, and I think it likely she is going to give us the brush-by on the good side. :) Still in the marina, boat is spider-webbed, and we're ready for come what may. I'll check in later, but right now I need a cold frosty beer! lol
It's interesting to see where those projections of the Hurricane tracks end up, S/V Faith. Over here we are suffering nothing like the ferocity that the weather is bringing you folk, but for days now we have had gales and great amounts of rain. It almost seems that once Mother Nature has battered your side of the ocean she has a final fling on this side. Keep safe all, regards Saxon.
Stay aleart Kurt. Not much worried about the winds as the storm is not to big and unless you are in or close to the center you will not get them. Tidal surge and tornado's and floating/flying stuff is your main concern.
The reamins should pass by me in on Sat and early Sun. Not to bad, only 40 mph winds with gust up to 55. I am well sheltered. The main problem is that this area has not gotton a major storm in years and the trees are badly in need of pruning.
Kurt, I and my family are praying for you
Thanks for the good thoughts, y'all. On the backside now, just about. It was an easy one, discounting all the prep, lol. :)
Very glad to hear you and the crew dogs made it ok. It looked like Hanna had lost some of her furry... I was hoping that was the case.
S/V Gaelic Sea is still on the hard right?
Good News!!!
Talked to John yesterday- Yes, Gaelic Sea is still on the hard. He should launch on Monday
Kurt - relieved all went well for you.
Oh Man, great to hear! Prep keeps you in shape!
Hanna is still over North Carolina. We should see whatever is left of her sometime late this afternoon. Hardly any wind through the night and first rain band started about half an hour ago.
Water levels are up about a foot or so over usual but no big deal.
Going to be a long day waiting.
Of course I ended up anchored in a spot with marginal signal for my data card, and the connection has mostly tanked since the rain started.
Won't hit New York for a few hours. I'm going sailing
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q30/commanderpete/crush.jpg)
Days like this are ones where I am glad I am behind New Bedford's Hurricane Barrier. :)
Kurt, you had it easy. Not much more than 20 mph. Here in MD we had sustained 40 mph with gust of 48.8 mph (60 kph). I was in the lee of a 4 story condo and trees all around. I did not get it bad at all.
C Pete,
Hope you had a good sail. ;)
Quote from: Lynx on September 06, 2008, 06:57:45 PM
Here in MD we had sustained 40 mph with gust of 60 mph.
I think you should question your data sources. Anchored near the head of Back Creek in Annapolis I saw a couple of gusts to 35, an hour or so sustained 20-25, mostly 10-15 sustained with gusts 20-25.
The Thomas Point Lighthouse data shows maximum sustained of 33 kts (one data point) and mostly below 20 kts. Gust data shows one data point of 39 kts but mostly below 30 kts. Thomas Point is pretty exposed.
I might believe numbers like you cited near Ocean City where they saw the front-right quadrant.
I'm glad I got ready and got out of the slip, but Hanna was really a non-event for me and folks I was talking with from Solomons to Baltimore.
Didn't even wake up last night in Boston. Hannah arrived on cat's feet.
Stunning day here as we prep for a week off. Hope to make it to the New Bedford YC Whaler's Race this weekend. They have a double handed division. We try again!
Fair winds, Norman and Elizabeth
I got data from Weatherunderground.com .
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMDSOLOM1&month=9&day=6&year=2008 (http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMDSOLOM1&month=9&day=6&year=2008)
At 9:43 am sustained 39.4 mph gust 48.8 (60 was in kph)
It was not bad as we are very sheltered here. If I was in open waters or with one side open it could have been much worse. Been in some of those. As I was very protected I cannot say that I was in those winds as most of the time the winds was comming from the 4 story condo's some 500 feet away.
It's hard to believe we may have another storm coming. Today it was almost perfect sailing, (the air was a little light). A sheer joy to be on the Gulf between Tampa and Sarasota.
Without the weather folks we would be in trouble here.
To all in the paths, "stiff upper lip, and a pint of John Courage."
Quote from: CharlieJ on September 02, 2008, 12:19:41 PM
I don't like Ike this time either......
......Oh well, Laura brought home 12 sheet of 1/2 ply the other day , pre-Gustav, so we have boarding up stuff on hand.
That may be a very good thing, looks like you may need it. Hope it does not get back up to anything near it's prior strength.
Quote from: Lynx on September 07, 2008, 01:23:18 PM
I got data from Weatherunderground.com .
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMDSOLOM1&month=9&day=6&year=2008 (http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMDSOLOM1&month=9&day=6&year=2008)
Interesting. Friends of mine where at the marina behind the Holiday Inn and at a private dock up the creek to the North from the island (islet?) off Zanheisers. Neither saw winds anything like what wunderground reported. I wonder what their data sources are?
Not so much true for objective data, but the variation observed wind reminds me of the same phenomenon in observed sea state.
We had just crossed through a pass, and had seen 4-6' seas... we had a visual on a ~50' cat who was behind us by a couple miles. We heard him calling his friend and heard him report the wave height as 10', which he later changed to "choppy with 12' seas". ;D
Just to add another wx link to the discussion. http://www.stormpulse.com/ (http://www.stormpulse.com/)
I just read about this one at SailingPensacola.com (http://sailingpensacola.com/forum/index.php) I had not found any I like more then the boat US tracking page; http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/tracking.asp (http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/tracking.asp)
Then I saw http://www.stormpulse.com/ (http://www.stormpulse.com/) I really like the detailed map, and the option to overlay the models over the top of the projected track.
Good stuff.
:)
Aint that the truth.
I like to check out NOAA Buoy Data
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/
Also weatherunderground history that Lynx mentioned
Hanna wasn't much when it got to New York--37 kt. sustained gusts and lots of rain. Next day was beautiful as usual
Best wishes to those in Ike's path
Ah yes- Zanheiser's. Best tasting water we found in the Chesapeake for putting in the tanks. Anchored off the lighthouse on two separate occasions while cruising the Chesapeake. Hope to do it again with in the next year or so ;D
interesting site for the Chesapeake from the National Park Service
http://www.baygateways.net/index.cfm
That stormpulse.com tracking map is nice.
I've been using http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/ (click on Ike).
They have many different maps and views for each storm, as well as regular
weather updates and lots of other stuff.
Here's a good website for keeping track of all the named beasties wreaking havoc.
STORMPULSE (http://www.stormpulse.com/)
Just posted a thread on Stormpulse, as I hadn't seen it on here yet...but hadn't read this thread yet either. :)
I HATE Storm pulse!!!
Because they have the durned thing centered on us. Right between Port O'Conner and Freeport. Port O'Conner is us.
I'll be beginning to board up things tomorrow, and get Tehani ready to move out to anchor, gas up vehicles and get some extra. Might miss, might not- gotta get started now.
Best of luck CJ. Hopefully it miss's you.Take care..be safe
These tracks just keep looking worse and worse for CJ & Laura. Now it is supposed to be a cat III or mayeb even cat IV. :o
(http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/images/ike_qlook.jpg)
Hope it keeps shifting west / south, You guys are in our prayers.
Well it HAD been shifting south til today. Now it's got us bore sighted. I've been working all day packing stuff away- trimmed some tree limbs away from the house, stowed all the outside furniture, strapped down the propane tank. In the morning we'll start boarding up and Thursday AM we'll put Tehani out on three anchors and lots of chain/rode, stripped of canvas, etc. We'll pull the engine also and us that on the inflatable to get home. Then probably bail outta here on Thursday night before the rush.
This one could be a bad one!! But hey- it's only the third time we've had to bail in 17 years. And the other two times we had clean misses.
Let's just hope the next one isn't LBJ "I Went All The Way With LBJ."
Be safe folks!
CJ - Do I have y'alls location pinpointed properly on the image below?
I sure hope he passes well to the south, and at a lesser strength than the current forecast calls for. Doesn't look like he'll be less than a Cat3 though, huh? Maybe enough southing will keep y'alls house and Tehani out of the stronger winds. Try not to worry - y'all are too close to taking off - she has to make it through. She is looking as forward to it as y'all are. :)
Now, now, that ain't exactly stormpulse's fault... Ike seems to like you...
Quote from: CharlieJ on September 08, 2008, 09:12:09 PM
I HATE Storm pulse!!!
Because they have the durned thing centered on us. Right between Port O'Conner and Freeport. Port O'Conner is us.
I'll be beginning to board up things tomorrow, and get Tehani ready to move out to anchor, gas up vehicles and get some extra. Might miss, might not- gotta get started now.
Yep Kurt- that would be us. On the south side of the top part of that bay system. That's Matagorda/Lavaca bays.
Laura has Tehani stripped as of last night, except for the engine, mainsail and boom. We'll be taking her out to a small bay across from us on Thursday and anchoring her off. I have a pair of 20H Danforths and quite a bit of chain to go with the extra rodes. Plus her normal anchor and it's 75 feet of chain. Should have some protection form the north and east which is where we figure the heaviest winds will come from.
I'll tow our big inflatable ans swap Tehani's outboard to that when we get there. Use that to lay out anchors and get us back here. Put the boom below and bring the sail home with us. And hope. Soon as she's anchored and we're here we'll bug out -try to beat the mass exodus Friday morning.
I cleared everything off outside yesterday, trimmed some limbs that might have brushed the house, etc.
Today we'll be boarding up the house and packing the stuff we DON"T want to lose for sure, to take with us.
We keep hoping it'll move faster and go in further south. The further south it moves, the less we'll get. Right now, we'll be on the dirty side. We could get a BIG surge. Of course also if it moves way north, then we escape that dirty side. I guess we'll know on Saturday.
I looked at the models, looks like it is headed straight for you CJ. Keep us informed and bug out early!
Good call to wait 'til Thursday to pick a spot, since the models and forecasts keep bumping N. Maybe just maybe y'all will get the (relatively) lucky west side of the eye, and that will affect where she'll be best anchored for maximum protection... I looked at Google maps today to see what you had around there. It all looks really flat, and without much in the way of even trees to act as a windbreak. What's the depth in that bay?
Crossing my fingers for you all (CJ, L, T, & T), burning joss sticks, keeping y'all in my prayers. Basically, everything I can do short of sacrificing a CrewDog, ;) trying to get Ike to move away...
You've got my cell #, if you are out of touch but want to pass on a message to sailFarers and/or the TSBB'ers, feel free to call anytime, OK?
BTW - where are you going to evacuate to?
Flat? did you say flat? Hey if your dog runs away over here you can see him for three days ;D
Keller bay is where we'll go. Not many trees but at least we can get in within a half mile of shore on the north, east and south sides. Which is where the winds will most likely be from. I'll lay out as much rode as I can get out- doesn't do any good in the locker. We'll most likely start out in 8 feet. Of course a tide surge will give us more. I'd like 10 feet, but I don't think that'll happen.
Quote from: CharlieJ on September 10, 2008, 09:48:20 PM
Flat? did you say flat? Hey if your dog runs away over here you can see him for three days ;D
LOL!!! :D Good one!
Was looking at the latest satellite animation (http://"http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200809_sat.html"), and noticed that, even all the way over here, we are under the extreme edge of the outflow, just a bit. The CoC seems to be about 50 miles closer to y'all, than it is to me. Sure hoping that all you get from this is another 'near miss' story. :)
PS - I meant where in Tx will you and L go? I know it will be inland at least a little ways...
Oh- to Laura's folks place above I-10 Northwest of Houston. If that gets to looking like it's gonna get rough, we'll head on further up to our family place above Livingston or to my son's place in College Station. But I imagine we'll be fine at her folks farm. No storm surge there ;D
I'm writing this post I would think for most everyone here:
To the whole family: CJ & L, Traveler and Tehani -
Keep this in mind:
You won't be going through this alone; neither before, during, or even after the storm.
You can be assured of that.
We are and will be keeping you in our hearts and thoughts, and will be standing by, ready to 'get on deck' at any time, to help y'all in whatever way is needed, in whatever way we can.
In the hope that knowing this might serve to ease your worries a bit...
CapnK and the CrewDogs (...and, I'd bet, pretty much the whole sailFar community. :) )
Absolutely.
Quote from: CapnK on September 10, 2008, 11:17:53 PM
I'm writing this post I would think for most everyone here:
To the whole family: CJ & L, Traveler and Tehani -
Keep this in mind:
You won't be going through this alone; neither before, during, or even after the storm.
You can be assured of that.
We are and will be keeping you in our hearts and thoughts, and will be standing by, ready to 'get on deck' at any time, to help y'all in whatever way is needed, in whatever way we can.
In the hope that knowing this might serve to ease your worries a bit...
CapnK and the CrewDogs (...and, I'd bet, pretty much the whole sailFar community. :) )
And let's not forget all of our other Texas area members...Grime is one that comes to mind but I know there are others.
I always get a knot in my stomach when I hear about major hurricanes. Best of luck to everyone in Ike's path.
As CapnK said,
QuoteYou won't be going through this alone; neither before, during, or even after the storm.
You can be assured of that.
Count me in too.
I hope all goes well.
As an aside, I was supprised today. We are way to the side of the storm, but our high tide here in Tampa Bay was as high as I can remember. Several residential areas in St. Petersburg had 2-3 foot of sea water in the streets. No heavy rains, just extra-high tide.
I just caught the forecast: 100+ MPH winds and a 20 foot tidal centered on Galveston due in at Midnight (plus or minus 2 hours) Friday night. They are giving an unprecedented warning, "those who do not evacuate will face certain death," for Galveston Island and environs. . I have never heard that warning before, and I have lived through hurricanes and trop storms for almost seven decades.
CharlieJ (et al.) - Get the HELP out of there!
Grime had the bus out of POC yesterday morning. They were prepping to haul Miss Froggie then as we were leaving aboard Tehani.
Tehani is safely anchored out in the center of a small bay with 4 anchors and some 250 feet of rode (or more) on each. Two of those anchors are from my 35 foot trimaran, so are well overkill for Tehani- which is good. Looking good for our area- seems the storm is turning and we'll (hopefully) not be in the dirty side.
We are safely up NW of Houston at Laura's folks place. We may lose power but we have two motor homes here both with generators and we have the kerosene stove from Tehani along.
We are seeing live feeds from Galveston helicopters. Waves are already breaking over the 17 foot tall seawall. At each end where the seawall ends, houses already have waves breaking under them.
They are now stating that the entire island will be flooded. The WHOLE island! This storm is going to be a disaster for Galveston. Surfside, sw of Galveston is flooding. I suspect everything between Port O'Conner and Port Arthur will have flooding to some extent POrt O'Conner is down where we live. I doubt it'll bother our house or my shop now that the storm has moved further east.
This is a MASSIVE sucker though and is going to cause BILLIONS in damage.
I'll post from here as I can.
Charlie-
Take care of yourself, and thanks for keeping us updated. It sounds like you have Tehani as well protected as anything can be given the conditions down there.
I and my family concur with what Cap'n K says, good luck! Marc
I know that these storms can be rough. I have been through several both ashore and at sea. The best that can happen is that you have good pryor preperation and a little bit of luck, I lift a grog to you and hope that you have fair winds and following seas real soon, Danny
Well, looks like we in Port Lavaca dodged a bullet. Strongest winds at the POC jetties were 38, gusting 45 at midnight. Tapered steadily after that. Now blowing 18,, gusting 23. But I'd do it again EVERYTIME rather than chance it.
Galveston and points east are still getting HAMMERED.
Good to hear you're okay charlie.
Charlie,
Glad to hear that you guys made it. You had us worried...very worried.
Fair winds,
Pappy Jack
The clean up is no fun. But, being safe is what counts. Take care.
Saw this YouTube video posted @ wunderground. Look in the upper left corner, there are boats up there. You can see some masts making crazy arcs...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8iqLcGN3Go
There is still a lot of people without power, running water.
Sun's out.
We be home and all is ok. All fine here. Tomorrow we'll try to get Tehani back to her slip IF the winds let us. Really hard to transfer that 85 pound engine from the inflatable to the big boat in waves.
There are over a million people still without power and many without water. Can't call my mom or sister in Houston as the cell service AND land telephone is out. DId talk to my cousin on the north side of Houston- he just got water back, but still no power.
Will have to drive to our farm north of Houston next week since the eye went right over it as a cat 1. Really amazing only 3 confirmed dead from it in Texas (so far)
East of Houston also really got blasted- over into Louisiana- this was a MASSIVE STORM.
And oh boy are we wiped out!!
;D
Great to hear all is well with you guys and that Tehani is safe. Amazing what a difference there is between the 'dirty' side of a storm and the back side. When Ivan hit Pensacola the storm surge in Pensacola bay lifted the I-10 bridge spans off and deposited them into Escambia bay (45' off the water).
Mobile, which was on the back side of the storm had some flooding and some trees down.
No power is no fun, but I bet it is a little easier on most of the SailFar crowd then the public in general. We were 27 days without it after Ivan, swinging a chain saw all day long every day.... :P Man I don't envy you for having to do the clean up, but it could have been worse.. much worse.
I hope the area recovers quickly, and that the death count stays low.
Thanks for the update CJ.
Thought of you 2 often in the last few days....relieved things turned as as well as they did CJ. Hope the clean up is easy.
Tehani is back in her slip, dirty but unscratched.
We on the other hand are totally pooped. :D
I wish the same could be said for folks between Surfside and Port Arthur and into Louisiana. Unfortunately there will be many many months of work recovering over there.
It was begining to look like we were gonna get what they did and only a small right curve took it away from us. We are VERY fortunate.
I am sure it was nothing like what you guys in the couth got but the ohio valley got a bit of Ike yesterday. As the front came through the east side of the front produced 50 substained with 75 gusts.
I can not imagine 75 and above substained It blew trees down here all over the place. You guys in the south must have some tough trees.
Hi everybody , my boat was in kemah but survived . legend point marina is a great hurricane hole .
I went yesterday to check and i have some pictures .
i will try to post . lots of nice boats did not make it
gallery seems to be off line , and i dont know how to post pictures from here.
test, new computer with vista
sorry but i can only post 1 at a time . i will try the gallery
Steve,
Really glad your boat came through alright. I am sorry that the gallery is not working right now, maybe you could post your pictures someplace like photobucket.com/ (http://photobucket.com/), or www.flickr.com/ (http://www.flickr.com/)?
Here is a link to some pictures that Kendall (http://votaw.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7534) posted on the PearsonAriel.org owners forum. 166 shots, and lots of heartbreak. :-[
(http://votaw.org/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=7536&g2_serialNumber=2)
hi thanks for the link , most of my pictures are the same . a lot of those last ones are at watergate marina ,where we moved our boat from in august .
kind of strange we are next door to watergate and didnt have near the damage they got .
I dont think it matters how well you tie your boat , your either lucky or not .
of course if you dont tie it your just stupid .
Sad!!! :'(
The J-24 in picture 3833 was the yacht that my wife took basic in... it must of taught hundreds of beginning sailors that came down to Bay Area sailing school... May it rest in peace.
Kemah was a nice little sailing town. I hope it bounces back quickly.
It will , power is back on in most places , trash service is running and mcdonalds is open .
the boardwalk will be a little longer but kemah will be fine .
A few pictures and a link, from the Houston Yacht Club. This is where I first stepped on a sailboat in 1957
http://www.byrneartandphoto.com/photo/events/2008_ike/index.html
(http://www.byrneartandphoto.com/photo/events/2008_ike/42_m.jpg)
(http://www.byrneartandphoto.com/photo/events/2008_ike/80_m.jpg)
(http://www.byrneartandphoto.com/photo/events/2008_ike/72_m.jpg)
(http://www.byrneartandphoto.com/photo/events/2008_ike/69_m.jpg)
That can't be good...
Hello All,
It has been a long time since I posted, but a couple of thoughts on Ike from Watergate Marina. Most of the damage was done in the area that was open to Clear Lake. My 27 was tucked safely in the back corner and other than having a fender blown up on deck there was no way to tell anything happened. Sadly many of the boats that were facing Clear Lake were on old, fixed piers and suffered a lot of damage. I'm sold on two things now, floating piers and closed harbors. Legend Point ( as Steve pointed out), Waterford, Southshore were all OK. Most exposed marinas or marina with exposed areas were not. Some of the big boats tied at pier 4 pounded to pier apart. The second thing I noticed is piling height. The pilings on the floating piers had scratchmarks about ten feet or so above the normal height of the dock giving an idea what the surge did there. I hear that surge at Bayland was high enough for a whole group of boats and dock to float off in a single raft as they floated above the tops of the pilings, but that is just hearsay at this point. A number of boats were damaged when they floated above the short pilings and then dropped back onto the dock as the water left the bay. There was one small Alberg that was worth noting. It was in a slip for a much bigger boat. The tide risers were bent but the boat was in very good shape. All of the 45 foot plus boats around it were knocked around badly.
All the best
mike
Quote from: pura vida on September 18, 2008, 10:22:13 AM
I hear that surge at Bayland was high enough for a whole group of boats and dock to float off in a single raft as they floated above the tops of the pilings, but that is just hearsay at this point.
I"m not 100% sure if it's the same location you are referring to, but I've seen some pics of such a raft that blew ashore as one big body.
Sorry, I've looked at so many links to pics from the aftermath in the past few days that I cannot remember where I saw this particular pictures.
Glad you fared well. That's really great news.
The boats floating off the pilings isn't hearsay- that was in Baytown and the entire marina came loose. A friend of mine keeps his PSC 25 there. Here's some pics
his boat-note the rollers around the hole where the piling once was
(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1221704286.jpg)
the empty pilings- the line of boats in the background are the ones that used to sit around these pilings-
(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1221705437.jpg)
some other of the boats from close up
(http://data.sailboatowners.com/photos/1221704724.jpg)
I wrote a paper about storm surge in Galveston bay almost six months ago. I'm surprised at looking at this photo of the piling height that the owners of Bayland didn't know how high it would get there. I'm not a hydrologist or a meteorologist (I wrote the paper as part of a writing class), but this kind of information is readily available to anyone bothering to look. If Ike had been a four or five I10 at Anahuac would be washed away. At least most of them look as if they landed on somthing soft. Great photos, thanks.
Found another great 'oneclick' hurricane tracking site.
Take a look at; Bear Paws Weather (http://www.bearpawsweather.com/tropical/index.html)
If there is available data there you want, I don't know what it would be.
Ida Ida, go and Hide (a)!!!
She was supposed to fizzle, but the latest advisory says she is coming ashore as a Cat 2 on Tuesday!
Prayers are appreciated,
Thanks!
Seems fairly late for a 'named' system. With luck it'll soften before then.Prayers are with ya and all in its path.
Quote from: s/v Faith on November 08, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
Ida Ida, go and Hide (a)!!!
She was supposed to fizzle, but the latest advisory says she is coming ashore as a Cat 2 on Tuesday!
Prayers are appreciated,
Thanks!
Batten 'em down, Craig. We'll be thinking and praying for you and everyone in Ida's path.
Quote from: s/v Faith on November 08, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
Ida Ida, go and Hide (a)!!!
She was supposed to fizzle, but the latest advisory says she is coming ashore as a Cat 2 on Tuesday!
Prayers are appreciated,
Thanks!
You betcha, been thinking about you guys all day since seeing the forecasts this morning, keep us informed.
Craig -
We're still praying for a fizzle out - good luck
jim
I get up this morning and the MSN home page news says "Ida weakens as it approachs gulf coast" Hope it keeps weakening and here's one for prayer ;)
Craig let me know if you need some help getting Faith ready more then willing to help you out.
Quote from: Navyvet on November 09, 2009, 10:31:12 AM
Craig let me know if you need some help getting Faith ready more then willing to help you out.
Thanks Dave,
Just got back home, sails are down, lines are doubled up. Good timing, as both of my slip neighbors were down there (alone) and both were taking down their jibs with gusty winds. Was able to give both a hand and coordinate the securing of the boats.
Got back in the car to hear that Ida has been downgraded to a Tropical Storm. Yea!
Thanks for all the prayers and good thoughts. ;D
Grog to all. ;)
We are quite glad also. Sitting inVenice Fl , riding to two anchors out front. Winds have been over 20, gusting near or over 30, for over three days now. First several days from the north, today hard from the east.
We've been watching Ida since it was born believe me.
Best of luck to our several friends who have boats in the P'cola area.
Charlie- You made it to Venice- one of my favorite towns! Did you get to Crow's Nest? Are you next to the city dock? I will hope that blow doesn't come back up the coast. We will be hoping for ya.
Yep- anchored off the city dock. Winds have been fairly stiff since we got here on Thursday. We've been on two anchors the entire time. Winds over 20 except at night and gusting over 30. Nothing to do with Ida either. From the high sitting over N Fl they say.
Walked past the Crow's Nest but haven't been in- we don't often spend money in restaurants ;) Living on Soc Sec ya know-grin.
The annual art festival was downtown on Saturday and we dropped plenty there buying Christmas gifts.
We HAVE walked the beach quite a bit and found some of the advertised sharks teeth. Way to ugly today for that though.
By the way- this really belongs on our cruising on Tehani thread. We shouldn't clog the hurricane thread with more cruising discussion. Although I suppose this one is sorta related. Grin.
Lookin like you guys are in for lots of rain and wind. Hope the winds aren't too strong and you's weather it OK. I'm enroute to Florida to head over to Bahamas....should be in Georgia tonight. Might catch the end of it there. Strange for mid november.
VERY thankful that we dodged the bullet once again.
Faith is safe and sound, thanks (and another grog) to all for the prayers and good thoughts. ;D
I'm in Georgia tonight. Heavy rain since West Virginia...but no big winds (yet) Glad you /faith faired well.
YAayyyy! ;D