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Title: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on April 28, 2022, 07:09:05 PM
Interior almost all the way blocked in. Infoes:
Forward, those are primarily buoyancy tanks, 'composter' head between them eventually, cabinetry on top. Junk rig mast will be up there somewhere.
Main water tankage will be under settees, rough guess around 55 gal. May put central tank in bilge for another 20-25 capacity, if ever needed...
Galley will be port and strbd just aft main bulkhead, stove to port, fridge and cabinet w/sink to strbd.
Aft of them on each side will be enough length for a 6'+ berth while underway, while in port the area under companionway makes for a large athwartships double. There will be a spray skirt to fit around ladder/companionway on wet windy days, to keep water off of berth.
Note "Oh poop" anchor stowage under companionway ladder - it's a 25# Manson Boss with crazy huge flukes (Primary will be an original Bruce, backed up by also a Fortress and a folding Northhill, 200' chain and also miles o' 3 strand). May put the house bank (2-4 100 a/h LiFePO4) under there. Or, may put it on front of main bulkhead up off of cabin sole, in case of flooding...
Also, folding/telescoping ski companionway ladder - tucks up out of the way when below to free up space, deploys in seconds when needed. My favorite "smart" idea. ;)
Boxing in area under cockpit seat lockers, making their bottom level with bottom of cockpit. With junk rig will not be needing to stow sails in there, so it would be wasted, wet space. Will be making long/deep drawers underneath that on inside, for stowage of clothing and lightweight personals.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Tim on April 28, 2022, 07:54:37 PM
Looks good, but just plain weird to see through to the cockpit floor.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on April 28, 2022, 08:43:35 PM
 ;D

Gonna be some sort of port or deadlight there, right over the berth. Dunno if you remember, I expanded the bridgedeck aft 16", cutting that much away from front of footwell.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: s/v Faith on April 30, 2022, 08:35:29 PM
Wow, that sounds like the years worth of ideas and mock ups coming to life!  Good to see her coming along, look forward to more updates. 
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on May 02, 2022, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: s/v Faith on April 30, 2022, 08:35:29 PM
Wow, that sounds like the years worth of ideas and mock ups coming to life!

It is indeed that, and then some! :)

Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, she/we will be in at least one of Frank's next-year Bahamas pictures.  8)
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Frank on May 02, 2022, 09:06:48 PM
Look forward to pictures of the progress!

Then…

Look forward to taking pictures 👍👍
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on May 17, 2022, 08:00:45 AM
Ran across this while sorting some data, a drawing to show my conceptual interior arrangement.

Been making progress and have some pics that I'll be posting up soon on -> my very own <- website, another project I have put off for far too long but which is also now underway. :)
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: wolverine on May 17, 2022, 02:02:27 PM
100 gallons of water?  Someone is planning on a long passage! ;D
I like where you positioned the bunk.  It looks like it would afford more comfort in rough seas.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on May 17, 2022, 07:50:33 PM
Conserving both weight and space, I scaled back a bit from that. :) Gutted with no interior she rides about 4" high. The two settee tanks should hold around ~27 each/55 gals total, with maybe another 20 in smaller tanks that could sit in the bilge or up in the forepeak. Full up with that much will sink her an inch and change, less than an inch with the settees alone.
Don't have to use all of it, but it's there if wanted/needed. Some places I would ideally like to visit don't have lots of sweetwater, and I don't want the complexity of a watermaker, so I'd need to tote it.
In sum, it means I have 1-1.5K of weight for everything else before she settles on her lines, and overall I'm trying to keep it light if possible.
But it would be cool to have a 200+ day water-range. 8)
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Frank on May 18, 2022, 03:56:33 AM
The Ariel is such a sweet sailing boat!
Well worth your effort!
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Tim on May 18, 2022, 07:37:57 AM
Quote1-1.5K of weight for everything else before she settles on her lines

that's a lot of rum
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on May 18, 2022, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: Tim on May 18, 2022, 07:37:57 AMthat's a lot of rum

Yar!!!!  8)

Been too busy chasing freedom chips for the past few days to get much done but have some more free time coming up it looks like to keep rolling.

Got her bilge sump filled and (not yet in before/after pic) glassed over, and the other pic shows what's happening with the aft end, cockpit lockers and such...

That bilge sump has bothered me from day 1, there was *always* some water in there, near 3' below cabin sole so hard to get the last bits when the pump couldn't. Now, though - DRY BILGES at last - yahoo! And I can reach there (and the pump) pretty easily if/when water does get in. Poured 2# urethane foam, and shaped some divinycel for a flat level 'cap' on that. Sanded after it hardened up to remove bumps and lumps, I just smile when I look in there now. ;)

The cabin/berth will end at the white 'legs' under cockpit, about where the side deck drains are on the hull. That space will be sealed off and full of empty, lidded plastic bottled, tho there will be access if I want to get in there for whatever reason later. The cockpit lockers will be walled off at the forward end you see, not open to cabin as in pic. They will have drains but will basically be sealed off otherwise, providing more flotation if the stern gets down that low due to water inside (heavens forbid....) Also, bilge pump will be plumbed to drain into cockpit at aft end on port side, with a seat-height loop above the actual drain exit, and a check valve just after the pump itself.

Remnants of former aft bulkhead will be sistered and then glassed over to make up strength (ideally) for what has been removed in that location. Possible small cabinets added onto forward ends of the locker bulkheads, as well as against the hull in berth area.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Tim on May 18, 2022, 03:26:01 PM
Lookin' good! Yes the bilge is a b#*&% to keep dry, nice work, (noted plan for the future on "Mariah")
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Frank on May 20, 2022, 11:25:07 AM
Great you’re at it!
Now..keep the momentum going and the pictures flowing!! 👍😁
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on July 06, 2022, 04:31:51 PM
I've gotten a good bit - if not a "Frank bit" ;) - of work done. I initially was using the 1/2" ply to make panels, but I've changed from that. Instead, I'm making all the panels with an EPS (pink foam) core sandwiched between epoxy/glass skins. It's WAY lighter, and while I don't yet have a solid figure, I'm guessing 1/5th or less the weight for any given piece. I found this 'thing' pictured below - I'm not sure if it is a medical instrument, or an "adult toy" of some sort ;D - that I use to perforate the foam for a better bond with the glass, and it works really good for that use (To be sure: I have not tried any other use...). All of the panels for the cockpit lockers, after buoyancy compartment, and aftmost bulkhead are done and I'm going to start installing them in the next few days. I will get some pics up soon, and will let you know when they are online.

The, um, "Thingy": https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FRQMK23
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Tim on July 07, 2022, 12:06:59 AM
Looking forward to seeing how they go together, I put a lot of the pink foam in Mariah but just used panelling over it. Regarding that tool, wasn't it used somewhere in a Tarantino movie?  8)
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: w00dy on July 08, 2022, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: CapnK on July 06, 2022, 04:31:51 PM
I've gotten a good bit - if not a "Frank bit" ;) - of work done. I initially was using the 1/2" ply to make panels, but I've changed from that. Instead, I'm making all the panels with an EPS (pink foam) core sandwiched between epoxy/glass skins. It's WAY lighter, and while I don't yet have a solid figure, I'm guessing 1/5th or less the weight for any given piece. I found this 'thing' pictured below - I'm not sure if it is a medical instrument, or an "adult toy" of some sort ;D - that I use to perforate the foam for a better bond with the glass, and it works really good for that use (To be sure: I have not tried any other use...). All of the panels for the cockpit lockers, after buoyancy compartment, and aftmost bulkhead are done and I'm going to start installing them in the next few days. I will get some pics up soon, and will let you know when they are online.

The, um, "Thingy": https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FRQMK23

I made a similar foam sandwich when I put the bulkheads in my strip planked kayak. Foam don't rot!
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Frank on July 15, 2022, 10:54:43 PM
Awesome you’re at it!
👍👍
Keep the momentum going!

and….



Pictures!
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Frank on August 12, 2022, 05:27:04 AM
Update please…


And





PICTURES!
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on August 25, 2022, 09:51:11 PM
Haven't touched her hardly, in near two weeks... been working on "Sell Boats", both A-30 and I-36. S'posedly the A-30 is sold, but until I have cash in my paw... Fixing and tweaking little issues, while waiting on raw water pump rebuild kit to come in - from Bulgaria!
Scheduled for haul out and paint in a couple weeks.
Because s'posedly the I-36 was sold, I'd moved off of it and onto the 30. Then the I-36 "buyer" guy started moving the goalposts...  ::) Similarly to A-30, doing projextx on her, head rebuild, re-bedding ports, etc... to get her Pretty...
So now I have moved back off the A-30 and back onto the I-36...  :-X  because I think that the A-30 guy will eventually come through. Should know by tomorrow. No cash by next week, they both go back on the block. I'd love to sell both, but need one at least short term to live on, unless... well, that's another story/possibility. :D

Very frustrating. A real Tale of Woe and Despair. And of "People Who Don't Know Boats, Buying Boats"...
They don't want honesty, I can tell you that, and they don't have an idea of what they are looking at. They value Pretty above all else...

I digress.

As before reported, I've got all the panels for Katie's after-parts cut/shaped, and now they are even glassed both sides, next step is to put them in place. I have decided to do it all (whole boat) in foam core, not plywood, except the water tanks.
The only parts I don't have, are the spar to make her junk rig. I know what I want, need the $$$ from Sell Boats to order it.
Worse comes to worst, I could rerig KM as a sloop for a while.
Still looking to travel this winter, even if I only get off the dock for a week, that will be good. I'm shooting for longer than that, though.

"Man plans, God laughs", or is it "Life is what happens while you are busy making plans" - or both, right?

These are the (L) after part of the main berth (under companionway, seen in plywood form in background), and (R) the forward end of the new cockpit lockers. Glassed with a linear 9.6oz cloth on both sides, they may get another layer of that or 1706 biaxial, once in place.

Exciting, I know... ;)
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Norman on August 26, 2022, 02:31:18 PM
Yep, buyers want "Pretty".  :-*  My boat was "Functional".  8)

Finally a guy came who had seen a number of boats in my price range, looked for structure defects, none, listened to how I had set it up for single handed sailing.

He complimented me for a solid and clean boat, paid cash.  Only boat he had looked at that had all of its parts in good shape, ready to put in the water and sail.  :)

Trailer passed inspection too.  :)

Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on August 27, 2022, 04:29:23 AM
Well, I'm hauling, cleaning, and painting the bottoms of both over what will be the aptly-named Labor Day weekend. Then both get put back up with shiny new pictures, maybe even a video...

Sunset here last night was pretty.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: Frank on August 29, 2022, 09:54:55 PM
Awesome sunset!

Thx for the update

Good luck on boat sales!

Keep us posted
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on August 31, 2022, 08:11:12 AM
Both back up for sale on CL and FB; let's try this again...  ::)

Gonna be a busy long weekend, but will be glad when done. :)

Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: CapnK on September 02, 2022, 03:20:50 PM
No answer from the guy at the yard - maybe he forgot? Well, I'll do them in the evenings this week, if that will work for them... Going to let a fella look at the A30 tomorrow, so getting her ready for that instead.

Hey Frank, here's a picture - my neighbor this morning.

He's a birdbrain.
Title: Re: And so it begins... Katie's 'rebirth'
Post by: wolverine on September 02, 2022, 04:23:34 PM
That will keep the Gulls away!